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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
(Post 498896)
What happens if they win that?
Mesa claimed in the original injunction case that if delta pulled the ERJ's and didn't pay them until the lawsuit was heard they would be forced to file bankruptcy. Thus not being able to actually make it to court. |
Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
(Post 498898)
Mesa claimed in the original injunction case that if delta pulled the ERJ's and didn't pay them until the lawsuit was heard they would be forced to file bankruptcy. Thus not being able to actually make it to court.
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Speaking of Mesa, pulled up next to this at the gate in CAE last night:
Photos: Canadair CL-600-2B19 Regional Jet CRJ-200LR Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net Can they no longer afford to paint their aircraft? :rolleyes: |
Looks like Mesa is sending some of their Go! jets back to the mainland... Is this the end for Go! in Hawaii?
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Originally Posted by BURflyer
(Post 498903)
Can't they use the same argument in Jan? It seems like if they lose in Jan they'd have to file BK!?
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Originally Posted by Copperhed51
(Post 498850)
I had a goatee at the time of my interview and the first question was, "why would you show up to an airline interview with a beard?"
I gave somewhat of a smart ass answer along the lines of "I didn't think I'd be donning an oxygen mask during the interview to save my life and the lives of a bunch of people sitting behind me." I guess for future interviews I'll show up in in my uniform, epaulets and all. Obviously the only way you can prove you are a pilot is to be dressed in uniform, ready to fly a plane that second. I dunno, some people have told me it was dumb of me to to show up like that but I disagree and think the question was out of line. I think part of the guy's problem with me was that I was not wearing a suit. I was wearing dress pants, shirt, and tie. My suit I bought for my Trans States interview back in January doesn't fit me anymore since I've lost 70 pounds and I'm too poor to buy another suit. I guess they got the impression that I wasn't taking the interview seriously when in reality I'm just poor and they're out of touch with reality. Oh well, I'm very very glad I didn't get hired. a big part of this job is professionalism look the part, act the part. doesn't mean wear your full uniform. if all you got is a shirt, slacks, & a tie, then you go in wearing that, but the shirt & slacks are pressed, the tie is tied and top button buttoned. the point of the interview is to act like you're there to confirm they're going to hire you. and the answer told them right away how you'd treat a passenger who came to you asking questions. snarky, disrespectful answers can get you in trouble. there's no way of knowing whether the pax you're talking to is some guy on the street or your codeshare's CEO. you say the wrong thing, and i'm sure a call will be made to your CEO discussing the disrespectful way his employees treat the codeshare's customers. look like a prefessional, act like a professional |
Originally Posted by Copperhed51
(Post 498850)
I had a goatee at the time of my interview and the first question was, "why would you show up to an airline interview with a beard?"
I gave somewhat of a smart ass answer along the lines of "I didn't think I'd be donning an oxygen mask during the interview to save my life and the lives of a bunch of people sitting behind me." I guess for future interviews I'll show up in in my uniform, epaulets and all. Obviously the only way you can prove you are a pilot is to be dressed in uniform, ready to fly a plane that second. I dunno, some people have told me it was dumb of me to to show up like that but I disagree and think the question was out of line. I think part of the guy's problem with me was that I was not wearing a suit. I was wearing dress pants, shirt, and tie. My suit I bought for my Trans States interview back in January doesn't fit me anymore since I've lost 70 pounds and I'm too poor to buy another suit. I guess they got the impression that I wasn't taking the interview seriously when in reality I'm just poor and they're out of touch with reality. Oh well, I'm very very glad I didn't get hired. |
Originally Posted by milky
(Post 498911)
And the oldtimers complain that these young guys are uneducated and lack common sense. Did you still have your Ipod in your ear, or did you pull the ear bud out?
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Originally Posted by resetjet
(Post 498904)
Speaking of Mesa, pulled up next to this at the gate in CAE last night:
Photos: Canadair CL-600-2B19 Regional Jet CRJ-200LR Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net Can they no longer afford to paint their aircraft? :rolleyes: RAH has a few of these it's cheaper than having multiple spares for each code share that get utilized less. |
Please excuse my ignorance (sarcasm not intended) but how many codeshares does Mesa Group operate?
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Originally Posted by resetjet
(Post 498923)
Please excuse my ignorance (sarcasm not intended) but how many codeshares does Mesa Group operate?
S5 has codeshares, and has 2 "caspers" as we call them, plus we can share the Repiblic Airways paint scheme planes as needed. |
This may be OT, does anyone know if Wells Fargo owns a lot of DCI aircraft?
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Originally Posted by resetjet
(Post 498926)
This may be OT, does anyone know if Wells Fargo owns a lot of DCI aircraft?
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Thanks, I was under the impression that Delta/DCI owned some of their aircraft or leased directly from the manufacturer. I guess it makes sense though, my paycheck at EV comes from Wells Fargo!
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
(Post 498898)
Mesa claimed in the original injunction case that if delta pulled the ERJ's and didn't pay them until the lawsuit was heard they would be forced to file bankruptcy. Thus not being able to actually make it to court.
I'm not saying you're wrong but I think that this point would not be given as much weight in an injunction hearing as has been passed around. That's not the judges role at that point. That issue would be more prudent in a trial for breech of contract. |
Originally Posted by resetjet
(Post 498931)
Thanks, I was under the impression that Delta/DCI owned some of their aircraft or leased directly from the manufacturer. I guess it makes sense though, my paycheck at EV comes from Wells Fargo!
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Originally Posted by milky
(Post 498911)
And the oldtimers complain that these young guys are uneducated and lack common sense. Did you still have your Ipod in your ear, or did you pull the ear bud out?
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Originally Posted by Copperhed51
(Post 499071)
One ear bud firmly in place, one pulled out. Seriously though, you guys need to get over yourselves. I was offered jobs at mesa and tsa and had the goatee during the interview. I'll shave it in future interviews just to be safe, but not hiring somebody because of their choice in facial hair is beyond retarded. Truly though, I only half wanted the job and had skipped my interview there a couple weeks prior so I suppose I probably wasn't trying very hard to impress them.
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Originally Posted by Copperhed51
(Post 499071)
One ear bud firmly in place, one pulled out. Seriously though, you guys need to get over yourselves. I was offered jobs at mesa and tsa and had the goatee during the interview. I'll shave it in future interviews just to be safe, but not hiring somebody because of their choice in facial hair is beyond retarded. Truly though, I only half wanted the job and had skipped my interview there a couple weeks prior so I suppose I probably wasn't trying very hard to impress them.
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I know everyone would like to see OJ out of his current position of tyranny. (myself included) But with the way this ridiculous industry works, if he lost his current job he would probably get promoted to a legacy carrier. Seems like this industry is in the recycling biz for CEO's who make airlines go bankrupt.
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
(Post 498435)
I guess the only downside to Mesa tanking would be that the APC forums would get really boring and the threads would be less abundant due to us all knowing the fate of Mesa........:D
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Originally Posted by mwa1
(Post 499197)
There is still gojets!
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Originally Posted by resetjet
(Post 498904)
Speaking of Mesa, pulled up next to this at the gate in CAE last night:
Photos: Canadair CL-600-2B19 Regional Jet CRJ-200LR Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net Can they no longer afford to paint their aircraft? :rolleyes: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unite...ada/0861030/M/ He's still in those colors to this day...flying for United in Denver.:D |
Ayep Mesa has some funny ones...How many Caspers are there in ORD??
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Originally Posted by Copperhed51
(Post 499071)
Truly though, I only half wanted the job and had skipped my interview there a couple weeks prior so I suppose I probably wasn't trying very hard to impress them.
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You Comair guys, who get off on our demise, took jobs with Comair voluntarily. You act like Comair kidnapped you, chained you in the basement, and then Mesa came in and had buttsex with you against your will.
You went to work knowing Comair was wholly owned. Can you honestly say your suprised? I don't like what is happening to you guys (furloughs), but I don't understand your selfish desire to see another 1500 guys out of a job just so you can get your 200 guys back from furlough. |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 499424)
If you only half-wanted the job, you should have only shaved one side of your face. :D
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Originally Posted by paxhauler85
(Post 499476)
You Comair guys, who get off on our demise, took jobs with Comair voluntarily. You act like Comair kidnapped you, chained you in the basement, and then Mesa came in and had buttsex with you against your will.
You went to work knowing Comair was wholly owned. Can you honestly say your suprised? I don't like what is happening to you guys (furloughs), but I don't understand your selfish desire to see another 1500 guys out of a job just so you can get your 200 guys back from furlough. First of all, I can tell that you are a 400 hour Mesa kid because of your inappropriate language. In this industry, we are all brothers and sisters and we should support each other in bad and good times. No one wants to see anyone on the street. You should not speak of all Comair pilots just because someone posted a comment on this forum. Most of the people at Comair would not want anyone to be without a job. So please stop the childish name calling and let’s support each other in this difficult time. Grow up and get a life. |
Originally Posted by paxhauler85
(Post 499476)
You Comair guys, who get off on our demise, took jobs with Comair voluntarily. You act like Comair kidnapped you, chained you in the basement, and then Mesa came in and had buttsex with you against your will.
You went to work knowing Comair was wholly owned. Can you honestly say your suprised? I don't like what is happening to you guys (furloughs), but I don't understand your selfish desire to see another 1500 guys out of a job just so you can get your 200 guys back from furlough. |
Originally Posted by flycrj200
(Post 499560)
First of all, I can tell that you are a 400 hour Mesa kid because of your inappropriate language. In this industry, we are all brothers and sisters and we should support each other in bad and good times. No one wants to see anyone on the street.
You should not speak of all Comair pilots just because someone posted a comment on this forum. Most of the people at Comair would not want anyone to be without a job. So please stop the childish name calling and let’s support each other in this difficult time. Grow up and get a life. 2) You have posted many comments regarding your desire to see us lose business/our jobs so that you can "get back what's yours." That flying was never yours to begin with. 3) Does the word "buttsex" bother you that much? Much more appropriate that the four letter word I wanted to use. |
"Mesa came in and had buttsex with you against your will."
No. If Mesa had come in and had buttsex with me I would have stabbed Mesa with my prison shank. |
Originally Posted by paxhauler85
(Post 499733)
1) Your wrong, not a 400 hour wonder. Been a captain for almost a year now.
2) You have posted many comments regarding your desire to see us lose business/our jobs so that you can "get back what's yours." That flying was never yours to begin with. 3) Does the word "buttsex" bother you that much? Much more appropriate that the four letter word I wanted to use. 2- It's because of people like you, people do not like Mesa and it's Pilots. 3- I did not say you took any flying from us or it was our flying to beging with, check your facts. 4- If you like "buttsex", thats your business, I do not care about your orientation. |
Originally Posted by flycrj200
(Post 499775)
1- You sound like a 400 hour wonder, grow up.
2- It's because of people like you, people do not like Mesa and it's Pilots. 3- I did not say you took any flying from us or it was our flying to beging with, check your facts. 4- If you like "buttsex", thats your business, I do not care about your orientation. Post # 5956. Certainly reads as though you blame Mesa for Comair's misfourtune, just as I said you did. http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...tml#post435727 Post # 9: Blaming Mesa again. Have you been taking blame shifting lessons from JO? Can't you just admit Delta has been screwing you? Now your management is jumping in, and ALPA is doing nothing about it. Not our fault. Sorry to hear about the furloughs. Hopefully those who want to come back, can (soon), and the rest find work elsewhere. |
he/she doesn't have to be a 400hr kid to talk like that. Could just be that he/she is young. Have you all seen how many early 20yr old capts/FO there are these days? Many are great capts and good sticks but some act THEIR AGE away from the cockpit.
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We all got into this industry to do what we love.
We dont need to point fingers or wish ill on others or put down company policies/procedures because of the uniform they wear. If your not happy with contracts/pay/QOL, tough. This is the nature of the business right now. Whether your at GLA,MESA,FedEx or Southwest you all knew the conditions of the company you applied/work for. All this bickering about how mine is better than yours is garbage. "Cowboy up" and fly. If you dont like it leave. Many of our airline bro/sisters who are on the street will gladly fill your spot. :cool: |
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He started it. :D
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Mesa stock down to $0.18, Citibank will layoff 50,000 people. Its going to be a bumpy ride. Most of us in the airline industry will not have jobs in the next 3 months.
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That's a pretty brash statement! While I have no doubt as the economy plays out its downturn there will be reductions in demand for travel and subsequent pain in our industry, I think its a bit far-reaching to say "most of us in the airline industry" will lose our jobs, especially in the next 3 months.
Do expect more bad news and furloughs through '09, though. |
Originally Posted by flycrj200
(Post 500181)
Mesa stock down to $0.18, Citibank will layoff 50,000 people. Its going to be a bumpy ride. Most of us in the airline industry will not have jobs in the next 3 months.
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