TSA strikes again!
 

As I was being pushed back yesterday the tug driver told the captain and I that he was in deep ****** with the TSA. There was a CRJ200 with its door closed sitting waiting for a crew on the ramp on a busy Thursday morning at D concourse. Apparently the TSA violated him, and the company for this, as it posed a security risk. They are going after him and the company for a $15k fine! Anyone who has been to ATL during the 8am to 10am rush knows the rampers are running around hectic and I sincerely doubt the aircraft's security was ever an issue. Obviously I don't know all the details but it still seems ridiculous! Just my 2 cents...

He will be able to pay that of just fine...as long as he signs off his entire paycheck to the TSA for the next year or so.....

I'm confused as to what the problem was. A CRJ200 with the door closed on the ramp. There are like 10 out there right now with the doors closed sitting. Maybe I should go out and open the doors.

Me too! I don't get it. Like I said I don't know all the details but that's what he told us.

Why don't we get the entire story before we discuss this. I mean, all you have is what a ramper told you during pushback. There is something here because why would anyone get violated for a closed door.

Deets!! We need deets!!

Because Eagle got fined for it :cool:

Door OPEN is an issue, F TSA

Maybe the aircraft wasn't secured. Some airlines place tape across the door. Or maybe he didn't do a security check. Who knows. I remember when I worked at Horizon, the FAA will walk around without their badges and I remember Express jet got fined a couple of times.

Without knowing more of the details of their story I can only assume because those geniuses at the TSA could not access the aircraft to do their little lame cabin security check? God knows they know exactly what they are doing and where all the access panels are on the interior and exterior are that could hide contraband <sarcasm>

Door OPEN isnt even an issue, F TSA

F-in TSA, thier stupid uniforms look like that raided a Jet blue rumage sale. And then they give them badges. F-n idiots. There is a program that needs shut down, its a damn hoax anyhow and a waste of my time and tax money. Its a dog and pony show for the passenger. I caught two of them on the plane in philly the other day and threatened a GSI because no one checked in to board the plane. I sent them out to come back with a supervisor, they never returned. Justifing there jobs at this point. What's that pay, does anyone know. If the girl making my coffee at Saxbys makes less its a crying shame!

I always knew I was walking into a "secure area" when I saw rampers digging through the galley for sodas, and then run off like cockroaches as we came down the jetway. :rolleyes:

I know it! And in ORD, they only come out at night when we can't see them...:mad:

This thread is a disappointment. I opened this thread fully expecting to see information about Trans States Airlines striking... again.

Soon.

I hear about 43k a year. Or 17$ per hour.

Then what are we doing flying Jets when we could be making rain with the TSA?! It's hard not to hate this business sometimes...

I'm with you there. I thought the same exact thing but didn't understand how it was possible. I guess the answer is that it's not possible....yet.

Your IQ is probably higher than your number of fingers, which automatically disqualifies you from any TSA position. :p

overqualified.

TSA makes me sick.

Maybe I'm missing something but almost the same thing happened to me this week;

Finished the day in SWF. An hour until the outbound crew turned up, so I shut down the APU and we closed the door as we left the aircraft to keep in the heat. 2 morons from the TSA turn up to "inspect" the aircraft and promptly lay into the ground crew because the door was closed!!

***!

For those who haven't seen it yet, search youtube for TSA gangstazs, and enjoy! worth a good laugh.

and along those lines.... had a pair trying to "inspect" the bird just as PAX were walking down from the gate... before they could come on the airplane they were made to fish out their ID which was inside their coats.... then promptly asked what type specific training they have had on this specific model aircraft? Can either of you even tell me what model aircraft this is? No, then how will know if something belongs, or not? Thanks for playing.... you're not qualified to be inspecting the aircraft, and may inadvertantly damage the aircraft; please step out of the way and allow my passengers to board, thank you. I think they went to get their supervisor, but we were outa there before anybody returned....

yep, had to go visit the CP.... Probably wasn't worth the aggravation in the long run... but it was satisfying at the time.

This makes no sense. The door was closed right? We have a poster in our crew room with a CRJ on it that says "this aircraft could be a terrorists next target...don't make it an easy one." It explains how important it is to close all the doors on the aircraft before leaving it unsupervised. I guess terrorists can't figure out what the "push" and picture of an arrow mean on the outside of the door. We even got a crew memo that said if we approach an aircraft that has any doors open including any cargo doors without a ramper or gate agent watching the aircraft we should contact a ground security agent and fill out a report. So I guess my company needs to figure out who's right on this issue.

Generally, in a dispute between TSA and anyone else over what's right, defer to the "anyone else". I've had them put sedated dogs into the cargo bin who were far more intelligent than the goons who showed up to "inspect" the aircraft...

TSA IS THE GOVERMENTS BIGGEST JOKE, and that is a pretty large statement.
I love flying into OAJ first flight of the day from CLT and watching 50 marines get off then having the 69 year old TSA agent get on and walkdown the airplane. I am pretty sure you could have a rabid raccoon in one of the overheads and this guy would miss it.

One would think common sense is suppose to be common……

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News Flash: Passengers Think Screeners Are Overrated!
The Transportation Security Administration knows it has public perception issues, and has turned to time-tested tools to better define its problems -- a consulting company and focus groups!



USA Today says it received a TSA report on a $200,000 study by the Manhattan-based Blue Lime consulting firm which brought groups of frequent fliers together to discuss TSA screeners, and gathered screeners to discuss passengers.

Blue Lime met with travellers from New York City, Minneapolis and Washington, and screeners at Chicago O'Hare and New York's John F. Kennedy airports.

Among the conclusions? Passengers think screeners are poorly skilled and poorly paid. TSA signs at airport queues, created by lawyers, are too hard to understand. Business travellers and families don't like sharing screening lines with each other.

From the screeners, Blue Lime learned that passengers are disrespectful, seemingly ignorant of why the precautions are being taken, and don't understand why they have to remove shoes and give up their shampoo.

Blue Lime has prepared a list of suggestions for the TSA, and you'll already see some of the changes over the holidays. Many airports have instituted slower-moving family screening lines. TSA screeners have been urged to avoid slouching, keep their uniforms clean and pressed, and greet passengers with a smile.

Perhaps the first change you'll notice will be visible from a distance. Overhead monitors will run videos explaining why the precautions are needed. In place of paragraphs packed with lawyer-speak, simple, signs will feature simple, clear messages such as, "Please be ready for security."

Another, positioned at the end of the line, says, "Did you collect all of your belongings?" It includes pictures of a wallet and keys.

And, in an obvious nod to the frustrations expressed in the screeners' focus groups, a third sign reads "Please give our officers the respect they deserve." Even when they take away your shampoo.

No one "deserves" to be respected. Respect is something that is earned. The TSA folks at DFW were working hard to earn the passengers respect when I went through a few weeks ago, but I've seen the other side of the spectrum at other airports.

I'm not taking my shoes off in Frankfurt any more, so I have to wonder if the TSA will catch on. If you prevent the terrorists from exploiting one weakness or opportunity, they will find another. If you want passenger air travel to be truly safe, all bags will have to be fedex'd to the destination on a baggage only flight and passengers will need to strip down and put on special TSA approved travel clothes at the screening checkpoint. No carry on's allowed and the concourses will have to be completely sterile.

I've never taken my shoes off in Monterrey, Mexico.

"Officers"??? :rolleyes:

They're calling themselves "officers" now??? That badge is surely going to their heads.