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RedBaron007 11-16-2008 08:12 AM

PDT DHC-8-300 Emergency Landing in PHL this Morning
 
It looks like flight 4551 landed nose gear up. No injuries reported thankfully.

Emergency landing at Philadelphia International; no injuries | Philadelphia Inquirer | 11/16/2008

Not a bad news article, but no details yet. That's the only article I've found. If anyone else finds something with some more information, feel free to add it on.

Killer51883 11-16-2008 08:15 AM

thats why there are 2:55 min delays going into philly today

planediveguy 11-16-2008 08:19 AM

And PHL sucks even on a good day...

rustypigeon 11-16-2008 08:35 AM

I just heard it was a 300 (HDF).

Bulletboy 11-16-2008 09:18 AM

Capt. is a good friend of mine. I was his private/inst instructor. He called me this morning after it happened. Nose gear would not come down and alt. extension also failed. Foamed runway, uneventful landing.

The thanks he gets is he has to blow in the tube and pi$$ in a bottle.....still going through all that hassle 3 hrs after incident.

MU2P 11-16-2008 09:23 AM

Now they will say "no single-engine taxi on the 300s". Mark my words.

piper338 11-16-2008 09:50 AM

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kp...2008-1400Z.mp3

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kp...2008-1400Z.mp3

I think that is the archive for the tower when it all went down.

BoilerUP 11-16-2008 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Bulletboy (Post 499706)
Capt. is a good friend of mine. I was his private/inst instructor.

Where did you instruct at?

RedBaron007 11-16-2008 11:06 AM

I know the Capt and FO well also. They're both very good pilots. I'm sure the paperwork and junk will take way longer than it should, but I'm just glad everyone's safe. Hope they can repair the airframe....I love flying the -300s.

And I'd say you'll be right about single engine taxiing the 300s, and they'll probably hit the -100s too. I heard they're spending a lot of money changing nose tires that are worn unevenly, since they have to be changed as a pair now.

Bulletboy 11-16-2008 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 499732)
Where did you instruct at?

I did it for him for free. We grew up together. I was working at Express Airlines I(now Pinnacle). I did all of his private. I didn't do much of his instrument, only a few hours of flt. time, but I did lots of bookwork with him. He was part owner in a 150. I think I made him bring me beer as I was under 21:p

windowseat 11-16-2008 02:43 PM

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../4/1423479.jpg

More here: Wings Over Philadelphia Aviation/Airline Site (PHLAIRLINE.COM) PHOTOS - Piedmont DHC-8 PHL Incident

piper338 11-16-2008 04:08 PM

Nice pictures

flynwmn 11-16-2008 04:19 PM

I have to ask has anyone else been getting nosewheel shimmies that have been worse then normal for the dash since we started single engine taxing. I've heard from some ALG mechanics it's the tires but this is second time this fall we've had a nosewheel failure in a 100 at the end of september.

RedBaron007 11-16-2008 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by flynwmn (Post 499876)
I have to ask has anyone else been getting nosewheel shimmies that have been worse then normal for the dash since we started single engine taxing. I've heard from some ALG mechanics it's the tires but this is second time this fall we've had a nosewheel failure a 100 hundred at the end of september.

I haven't heard anything about another nosewheel failure. Where'd that happen? I assume they were able to alternate extend? I have noticed nosewheel shimmies, and the FIL about locked wheel turns had a crazy picture of a bad nosewheel bearing. Who knows. Could have been a bad PSEU too. I've heard one possible problem might have been the nosewheel centering mechanism didn't center the nosewheel, but that's entirely a rumor, so take it for what it's wroth. It certainly does sound like a possible cause, but I wouldn't go farther than that.

flynwmn 11-16-2008 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by RedBaron007 (Post 499885)
I haven't heard anything about another nosewheel failure. Where'd that happen? I assume they were able to alternate extend? I have noticed nosewheel shimmies, and the FIL about locked wheel turns had a crazy picture of a bad nosewheel bearing. Who knows. Could have been a bad PSEU too. I've heard one possible problem might have been the nosewheel centering mechanism didn't center the nosewheel, but that's entirely a rumor, so take it for what it's wroth. It certainly does sound like a possible cause, but I wouldn't go farther than that.

The one at the end of Sept was also in phl was a SBY crew going to HVN. Had a bad nosewheel shimmy on rotation got the gear unsafe light when they raised. Did the alternate extension and where able to taxi back to the gate.

piper338 11-16-2008 04:50 PM

I did a ferry from PHL with the gear down a few months ago, sounds like the same thing.

Flight1339 11-16-2008 06:04 PM

The CA I was flying with tonight was in the Mx hangar with the airplane. He told me that when they brought the gear up after takeoff in ABE the nosewheel wasn't centered properly and jammed inside the well. Apparently the only damage was to the nose gear doors and the airplane was to be ferried out to MDT tonight for repair. Good on the crew for bringing her in without any injuries.

DLAJ77 11-16-2008 07:41 PM

props to the piedmont guys. great job! glad nobody was hurt.

rocketman3746 11-16-2008 07:56 PM

The articles on this event are ridiculous. First of all, they keep saying "jet", which we obviously aren't, and my favorite headline so far is on the comcast home page, "Jet Crash Lands at Philly Airport." Who comes up with these headlines? And I agree, single engine taxiing may be going away... Anyways, good job guys (and girl)!


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