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ARJ21 First Flight
ARJ21 First Flight
Watch out Boeing and Airbus (Sarcasm)!! The big boys don't need to worry until China learns to build their own airplanes, rather than re-engine and re-wing existing airplanes. It is a bummer though that they are marketing what is essentially a DC-9 as a regional airplane. |
I wonder how much of this airplane is produced outside of China through worldwide suppliers....
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Didn't they put regional jet engines on it (GE CF-34's)? I'd guess that it will perform much like a RJ... except worse aerodynamics, probably heavier, etc.
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I have to say it does look pretty nice, curious to see what the flightdeck looks like and who are the buyers.
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Yeah, I noticed that. Looking at the specs, the weight is similar to a -900.
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From Fltnews.com:
The ARJ 21 is built using tooling provided by McDonnell Douglas for licenses production of the MD-90. The ARJ21 has a strong resemblance to the DC-9 series aircraft with identical nose profile and cabin cross-section. The ARJ21 has a new supercritical wing fitted with winglets. It also features western avionics, a fly-by-wire flight control system, and General Electric engines. The initial variant will be the -700. Additional variants will include a stretched fuselage, extended range models, a cargo airplane, and a business jet variant. Interesting stuff. |
Originally Posted by waflyboy
(Post 509453)
I wonder how much of this airplane is produced outside of China through worldwide suppliers....
It's only a matter of time before there's a "Made in China" sticker in your cockpit.:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Senior Skipper
(Post 509546)
It's only a matter of time before there's a "Made in China" sticker in your cockpit.:rolleyes:
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"Made in China" will start looking like DMI stickers in Mesa aircraft LoL
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
(Post 509647)
"Made in China" will start looking like DMI stickers in Mesa aircraft LoL
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Originally Posted by Senior Skipper
(Post 509676)
DMI?
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Here's a PHOTO of the flight deck. It looks like a CRJ replica. Collins Pro-Line, very similar switchgear. The center console looks nearly identical.
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Originally Posted by BobSakamano
(Post 509694)
Here's a PHOTO of the flight deck. It looks like a CRJ replica. Collins Pro-Line, very similar switchgear. The center console looks nearly identical.
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That's a nice looking cockpit. I like the moving map/radar in place of the HSI below artificial horizon on the PFD. I wonder though, how necessary is the HUD...?
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Originally Posted by vtbvtdk
(Post 509701)
That's a nice looking cockpit. I like the moving map/radar in place of the HSI below artificial horizon on the PFD. I wonder though, how necessary is the HUD...?
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
(Post 509706)
It'll probably be an option that won't be excersized LoL
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Originally Posted by BobSakamano
(Post 509711)
Exactly. Picture it with 1 FMS, no HUD and a bunch of blank plates where the options would go. There you'll have an accurate regional airliner.
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It seems to me that they simply mated a DC-9 with CRJ engines and flight deck.
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Originally Posted by BobSakamano
(Post 509711)
Exactly. Picture it with 1 FMS, no HUD and a bunch of blank plates where the options would go. There you'll have an accurate regional airliner.
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Besides the lead posining didn't we call this the 717 the first time this came out?:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi
(Post 509717)
It seems to me that they simply mated a DC-9 with CRJ engines and flight deck.
Yeah if you go to the news site that's linked and click on the hyperlink to the ARJ21-700 aircraft info, it talks about the design. Quote: "The ARJ 21 is built using tooling provided by McDonnell Douglas for licenses production of the MD-90. The ARJ21 has a strong resemblance to the DC-9 series aircraft with identical nose profile and cabin cross-section." So there you go. They aren't ashamed at all. DC-9 on the outside and in the cabin, CRJ in the cockpit and on the engine pylons....:D |
Nobody tell Northwest or Delta that you can put CRJ engines on a DC-9 or they'll try it
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Originally Posted by BobSakamano
(Post 509694)
Here's a PHOTO of the flight deck. It looks like a CRJ replica. Collins Pro-Line, very similar switchgear. The center console looks nearly identical.
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I want to puke with some of the negative comments on this board.
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Originally Posted by flyviper
(Post 509973)
I want to puke with some of the negative comments on this board.
I think I will go vomit too. :( |
Originally Posted by ChickenFlight
(Post 509942)
Nobody tell Northwest or Delta that you can put CRJ engines on a DC-9 or they'll try it
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
(Post 509697)
How original :rolleyes:
But hey Im not hating, im glad that it flew....... |
IIRC, the ARJ21 was designed for a specific domestic flying niche in china. I don't think it will even be certified by the FAA/JAA...so we probably won't see it in mesa colors (unless you go to china).
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The wing is Russian, the engines are American (GE CF34-10A, used on EMB190/195s).
And how original: ARJ-21: Asian Regional Jet, 21st century. Even though the fuselage dates back to the 50s and the engines to the 80s. Whatever, China. |
Originally Posted by 405PA
(Post 509863)
Besides the lead posining didn't we call this the 717 the first time this came out?:rolleyes:
I can only think of how the "performance" would be, with underpowered engines on a DC9 body....sounds SLOW. |
Originally Posted by Avroman
(Post 509955)
Well the Communists have always been good at stealing a western design, repainting it, and calling it thier own design.....:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Senior Skipper
(Post 509676)
DMI?
10 characters Back to the aircraft: 15K thrust is on par with the old DC-9 engines.. Does it have leading edge devices??? |
Ill bet it taxiis like a drifting car...the only aircraft in the world that take turns at 90 knots on slick pavement :p
Whatever China....we'll never see this thing here |
Originally Posted by SmoothOnTop
(Post 510242)
Does it have leading edge devices??? Does the DC-9? You'd think I'd know that after building the DC-9 in Long Beach for Douglas, but I honestly don't remember. Obviously, the Super 80 series does. |
I know the DC-9-30 does. The -10 does not. I'm not sure if there are any variations between the -10 and -30 that may or may not have them.
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