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Originally Posted by prican1121 (Post 511461)

Thats exactly what it is. It only accepts 7 characters and not 8. I understand it's a courtsey, but when you cannot even get near the captain to ask permission to jumpseat is not right. Their pilots have no problem being pulled up and verified in CASS in our system.

The Captain can not approve you to ride in the Cockpit without a CASS approval. To even ask the CA to take you in the cockpit in that situation I think is a bit rude. You are literally asking him to put his career on the line so you can jumpseat. The TSA would revoke his SIDA clearance if he got caught taking you and he would not be able to work let alone what the FAA would do.

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Originally Posted by higgi8f6 (Post 526762)

So, I'm at PDT and am gonna try and hop on Southwest this weekend and was wondering if this has been worked out. If their system only accepts 7 digits, how do we help the agents out and know how to enter it. I know its our employee# followed by EN and the airline code is US for most CASS stuff. How do we put it into Southwest's system?

Just wondering if people have figured out how to do it.

Still hasn't been sorted out yet. Basically, since they cannot verify you in CASS, you will not be allowed in the actual jumpseat. Just hope there is a seat open in the back.

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Originally Posted by cessna172heavy (Post 511081)

I recently jumpseated a Southwest flight, and the gate agents were unsuccessful at pulling me up in CASS. They still gave me a seat in the back, but I was not jumpseat approved. I've never had a problem at any other carrier.

Any other fellow PSA pilots out there know what combination of employee number and airline code works for Southwests CASS system. We tried all sorts of combinations using the employee number on the front and the one on the back of my ID, coupled with the "JS" carrier code. Also, they were asking for my location??? Told them I was based in TYS.

Anyone have any insight or experience with this?

I dont' know if this is the issue or not but at CHQ they seem to have a lot of issues with their new system. I can walk behind the counter and load myself in under 30 seconds now I've had to do it so much. Reason being is that they try and list jumpseat which is talking about FA jumpseats in the back and we aren't allowed in them so they keep looking for our airline and not finding it. You have to make sure they list you for the cockpit regardless if you're going to be sitting in the back or not. It's the only way CHQ shows up.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 526845)

I am not asking the Captain to put his career on the line to let me ride up front without being in CASS. Ppl are getting the wrong idea. I guess I have to spell this out. My initial response was to someone who said it's a courtsey, not a right. I fully understand that. My point is that without being in CASS, I don't have the opportunity to try to use, or even be denied my courtsey (that I had before and that others still have), since the CA has the final decision on who rides jump (again, assuming CASS approved). I was trying to show that I was not saying I am entitled to the jumpseat, but would at least like to correct something that would LEGALLY allow me the POSSIBILITY to ride in the jumpseat. Maybe this wording is better. Please understand I am not trying or suggesting to go around any rules.

Imagine I was in your new hire class. I give you my phone number and say hey, I am going to get food later. Give me a call and if I'm done with my assignment, I will take you. Other ppl have cars but there is no space. However, it is known that if I decide to go, you can ask me. Your only other choice of food is a frozen bagel you have. It is not a right, you could find a way to get your own food. I was offering you the opportunity to possibly get some food. Now, all of a sudden you cannot get in touch with me b/c you had the wrong number, and that was the only way you would be able ask me for a ride in my car to grab some food. You would not be wrong in saying, you told me to call I had the wrong number, so I had no way of contacting you to possibly have the opportunity to grab a bite to eat.