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seafeye 12-09-2008 05:32 AM

Hot Reserve
 
Just a question to what your Hot Reserve or Airport Reserve schedules are like at various airlines.
At PSA...

10 hrs at a time. Either 5am - 3pm or 2pm - Midnight.
No more than 3 days in a row.
No monthly max.

Reserve is paid 72hrs/month.
No credit for sitting HOT or regular reserve.

cessna126 12-09-2008 05:59 AM

At Comair they are 6 hours. No more than 2 days in a row and no more than 6 in a month. You also get 4:20 worth of credit for them and reserve is paid at 75 hours.

Red Forman 12-09-2008 06:18 AM

I heard that at mesa they are 12 hours long, and im sure they don't get paid for it.

Flyby1206 12-09-2008 06:27 AM

At Eagle we have 3 shifts per day of ready reserve. They vary by base, but are generally:

0530-1330
1100-1900
1400-2200

Ready Reserve lines are 75hr guarantee, have 11 days off per month, and you sit Ready Reserve for 4-5 days at a time for the whole month. If the ready reserve lineholder is sent out on a trip they call in a regular reserve pilot to sit for an 8-hour shift.

I think this is one of the weakest parts of the Eagle contract, sometimes we have multiple Ready Reserve pilots sitting at the airport on overlapping 8hr shifts.

beech_nut 12-09-2008 06:46 AM

Commutair
 
Amazingly we are not the worst in this regard. 8 hour shifts, 4 hours credit, no limit per bid period, and reserve lines are worth 76 hours per bid, and you get 9 days off out of the 28 day bid period. The best part is that there are just reserve lines. You do not get to find out if you have ready (airport) reserve or regular reserve until the day before at 3 PM. nice...........

Drums4life 12-09-2008 07:12 AM

Mesa is pretty bad but I know people that have made quite a bit of money sitting ready. 8, 10, or 12 hour shifts which pay 3.9. 4.9, or 5.9 hours. No limits in the bid period for it.

Windsor 12-09-2008 07:19 AM

Pinnacle's ready reserve (hot reserve) sucks as well. 9 hour shifts. Hours vary by base. You only get your 3.75 hr rsv credit and no per diem unless you get a trip. No limit on amount of days you can sit in a month, can get stuck with up to 6 days in a row of it. Have heard of some guys getting shafted by having up to 17 days a month of that crap. Pure abuse.

bored 12-09-2008 07:29 AM

Mesaba -

8 hour shifts, no more than 3 in a row and 10 in a month. Times vary per base. Perdiem while getting to know the airport and they pay at our 4 hour min day. Anything flown on reserve goes above your 4 hour daily credit and goes towards the monthly guarantee like any other reserve flying. 75 hour guarantee for reserves and 11 days off. They only use the clause if staffing is sufficient. The most junior pilot on reserve not flying that day is the lucky soldier.

cencal83406 12-09-2008 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Windsor (Post 514841)
Pinnacle's ready reserve (hot reserve) sucks as well. 9 hour shifts. Hours vary by base. You only get your 3.75 hr rsv credit and no per diem unless you get a trip. No limit on amount of days you can sit in a month, can get stuck with up to 6 days in a row of it. Have heard of some guys getting shafted by having up to 17 days a month of that crap. Pure abuse.

Up to 20.:eek:

ExperimentalAB 12-09-2008 08:05 AM

SkyWest is much like PCL's...not fun!

seafeye 12-09-2008 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 514875)
Up to 20.:eek:

Would you get the 3.7 hrs over guarentee if you flew the 72hrs first? Or is it like PSA you can fly 72hrs and work 4 days Hot Reserve but only get paid for the 72?

Forgot to mention PSA get paid per diem of $1.40/hr on Hot reserve. Taxable.

sweptback 12-09-2008 08:57 AM

ASA, no more than 6 in a month, 4 hrs pay. Times vary by scheduling's whim. Assigned to the pilot with the most days of reserve and with the lowest credit hours to the month, or so they say.

FOblondie 12-09-2008 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 514798)
At Eagle we have 3 shifts per day of ready reserve. They vary by base, but are generally:

0530-1330
1100-1900
1400-2200

Ready Reserve lines are 72hr guarantee, have 11 days off per month, and you sit Ready Reserve for 4-5 days at a time for the whole month. If the ready reserve lineholder is sent out on a trip they call in a regular reserve pilot to sit for an 8-hour shift.

I think this is one of the weakest parts of the Eagle contract, sometimes we have multiple Ready Reserve pilots sitting at the airport on overlapping 8hr shifts.

You forgot my favorite shift at ORD, 1900-2400. But since the last flight leaves at 2200 you end up working only 3 hrs if you don't get called out. As a line it sucked but every now and then it's fun to eat up a reserve day.

Speedbird172 12-09-2008 10:28 AM

I couldn't stand RR, even at Comair where it appears we had it pretty good. Let's see 4:20 credit for 6 hours of work hmmm. I don't know how some of you other guys put up with it. Scheduling shouldn't make me waste my time just so you have the proper 'staffing levels'. I know not breaking any new ground here, ugh I definately don't miss that along with a lot of other stuff.

powrful1 12-09-2008 11:02 AM

At RAH:

Standard reserve blocks are at 12 hours and paid at 4 hours (if called) or block/or better whichever is higher. We can be used up to 16 hours at the start of our reserve period, but required to work no more than 14 hours. Call out, must call back within 20 min, and total time from call to show is 1 hr 30 mins

Hot Reserve (which we don't use but is in the contract) 5 hours of pay in 10 hour blocks, same 5 hours min, block/or better whichever is higher. Max utilization from the start of hot reserve is 14 hours. Per Diem is paid for hot.

Mason32 12-09-2008 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 514761)
Just a question to what your Hot Reserve or Airport Reserve schedules are like at various airlines.
At PSA...

10 hrs at a time. Either 5am - 3pm or 2pm - Midnight.
No more than 3 days in a row.
No monthly max.

Reserve is paid 72hrs/month.
No credit for sitting HOT or regular reserve.

Eagle
8 hour shift
S-1 = 530am-130pm
S-2 = 11am-7pm
S-3 = 2pm - 10pm
Not every base has an S-2 shift
They are awared as monthly lines
75 hours pay
3.45 value for the day
11 days off
can have six days straight, but mostly it's blocks of 4 or 5

If you fly over 75 hours you get overtime pay
If you fly on your days off you get overtime pay

TrevorW 12-09-2008 11:31 AM

GoJet just started doing ready reserve again after about a year hiatus.
70hr guarantee, 4 hrs credit minimum per day on reserve, 5 hours + per diem on ready reserve. Two shifts, 0500-1200 and 1200-2200, but they usually let the reserves go after the last flight, around 2000. 10-11 days off, usually reserves only do one day a week, or less depending on seniority, of ready reserve. Flying on days off gets 1.5x pay.

withthatsaid182 12-09-2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 514798)
At Eagle we have 3 shifts per day of ready reserve. They vary by base, but are generally:

0530-1330
1100-1900
1400-2200

Ready Reserve lines are 72hr guarantee, have 11 days off per month, and you sit Ready Reserve for 4-5 days at a time for the whole month. If the ready reserve lineholder is sent out on a trip they call in a regular reserve pilot to sit for an 8-hour shift.

I think this is one of the weakest parts of the Eagle contract, sometimes we have multiple Ready Reserve pilots sitting at the airport on overlapping 8hr shifts.

last month i sat ready every day and i wasn't the lineholder...the guy somehow dropped the line...in oct i wasn't a ready line holder and i sat ready 13 times...and 12 times in September...

jr. guys on the list dread when the ready guys have a day off...

pokey9554 12-09-2008 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 514795)
I heard that at mesa they are 12 hours long, and im sure they don't get paid for it.

You've heard wrong. They have 8, 10, or 12 hours hot reserve shifts, and they do get paid for hot reserve.

cencal83406 12-09-2008 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 514894)
Would you get the 3.7 hrs over guarentee if you flew the 72hrs first? Or is it like PSA you can fly 72hrs and work 4 days Hot Reserve but only get paid for the 72?

Forgot to mention PSA get paid per diem of $1.40/hr on Hot reserve. Taxable.

9E min guarantee = 75 hours. There is no pay credit for ready reserve. If you sit 20 days @ 9 hours a day, it's your loss. There is no per diem unless they use you for a trip. And since I haven't had to deal with it, I can almost guarantee that 9E would not want to pay per diem for the day ready reserve in addition to the flying.

Mason32 12-09-2008 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 514798)
At Eagle we have 3 shifts per day of ready reserve. They vary by base, but are generally:

0530-1330
1100-1900
1400-2200

Ready Reserve lines are 72hr guarantee, have 11 days off per month, and you sit Ready Reserve for 4-5 days at a time for the whole month. If the ready reserve lineholder is sent out on a trip they call in a regular reserve pilot to sit for an 8-hour shift.

I think this is one of the weakest parts of the Eagle contract, sometimes we have multiple Ready Reserve pilots sitting at the airport on overlapping 8hr shifts.

Reserve pay is 75 hours, not 72. 72 is lineholder guarantee.

We do not have all three ready reserve shifts at all bases

you have 15 minutes to return a phone message from CS
If they send you on an out of base trip, they have to release you and send you back to your base if you pass though the other base and a reserve at that base is now available.... they will violate this one all day long unless you watch them.
They have to give you ten hours off in base between trips/assignments... they will only schedule 8 hours unless you call and tell them you want all ten.

On a RAP, you have 2 hours to sign in at base; and from that point on you have 45 minutes to have breakfast, or whatever, and make your way to the airplane. End result, 2:45 from call out, to airplane.

NightIP 12-09-2008 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 514761)
Just a question to what your Hot Reserve or Airport Reserve schedules are like at various airlines.
At PSA...

10 hrs at a time. Either 5am - 3pm or 2pm - Midnight.
No more than 3 days in a row.
No monthly max.

Reserve is paid 72hrs/month.
No credit for sitting HOT or regular reserve.

Is that a joke? :eek: I feel for ya!

I remember at XJT it was 5 hours long, you couldn't have it two days in a row, it couldn't be on your last day of a reserve sit, and no more than 6 times in a month.

I haven't even thought about that contract in 3 months or so and I can still rattle off reserve rules. Isn't that sad? :D

Scrapdaddy 12-06-2022 05:41 PM

14 years later I find myself back on reserve at my regional. Any tips?


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