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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
(Post 517575)
Though I like to keep the dream alive as well, just when things start to pick up again, cabotage(sp?) will be just starting to really get going and US airlines will be underbid by foreign airlines doing US Domestic flying for dirt cheap..............
You just cant win................but then again the poor ol' pee-on American worker was always meant to be kept down, its the low-life CEO's and Bankers who put the country in the shape that its in who receive huge admiration,payouts/bailouts/vacations after getting bailed out etc...... I am off to an island where my days will be spent eating coconuts and drinking red-stripe ;) It can only go up from here... |
Originally Posted by Joachim
(Post 517690)
Tell me my friend. Who works for less than US pilots? It's not the europeans, asians, africans, eastern europeans or middle easterners.
It can only go up from here... |
Pilots in Mexico make less. Maybe South America too. However, compared to other professions, they earn a high standard of living even at the regional level which is usually not the case in the US. If you think our shiny jet FOs look young, those boys look like they haven't hit puberty yet.
Ever since I got into aviation 11 years ago there have been predictions of pilot shortages. I think we saw glimpes of it in the summer of 2001 and 2007. However, 9/11 ruined it in 01 and all the fuel prices for 08. There are so many variables that you can't say when a shortage may happen because a terrorist attack, fuel prices, bad economy, and who knows what else could change it within a month to furloughs throughout the industry. However, if a lot of companies hedge well, and no terrorists attacks, it is possible that in 2012 the hiring will be up and a lot of Favre pilots will finally hang their hats. |
There will never be a true pilot shortage. We nearly had one last year, but instead of raising wages to attract more pilots, they just lower the minimums.
A pilot can be created in less than a year. This has been proven. Because of this, there will never be an actual pilot shortage. |
Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
(Post 517575)
Though I like to keep the dream alive as well, just when things start to pick up again, cabotage(sp?) will be just starting to really get going and US airlines will be underbid by foreign airlines doing US Domestic flying for dirt cheap..............
You just cant win................but then again the poor ol' pee-on American worker was always meant to be kept down, its the low-life CEO's and Bankers who put the country in the shape that its in who receive huge admiration,payouts/bailouts/vacations after getting bailed out etc...... I am off to an island where my days will be spent eating coconuts and drinking red-stripe ;) I agree with your second paragraph. |
Originally Posted by kersplatt
(Post 517741)
Pilots in Mexico make less. Maybe South America too. However, compared to other professions, they earn a high standard of living even at the regional level which is usually not the case in the US. If you think our shiny jet FOs look young, those boys look like they haven't hit puberty yet.
Ever since I got into aviation 11 years ago there have been predictions of pilot shortages. I think we saw glimpes of it in the summer of 2001 and 2007. However, 9/11 ruined it in 01 and all the fuel prices for 08. There are so many variables that you can't say when a shortage may happen because a terrorist attack, fuel prices, bad economy, and who knows what else could change it within a month to furloughs throughout the industry. However, if a lot of companies hedge well, and no terrorists attacks, it is possible that in 2012 the hiring will be up and a lot of Favre pilots will finally hang their hats. |
Originally Posted by kersplatt
(Post 517741)
Ever since I got into aviation 11 years ago there have been predictions of pilot shortages. I think we saw glimpes of it in the summer of 2001 and 2007. However, 9/11 ruined it in 01 and all the fuel prices for 08. There are so many variables that you can't say when a shortage may happen because a terrorist attack, fuel prices, bad economy, and who knows what else could change it within a month to furloughs throughout the industry. However, if a lot of companies hedge well, and no terrorists attacks, it is possible that in 2012 the hiring will be up and a lot of Favre pilots will finally hang their hats. |
Originally Posted by willflyforcash
(Post 517751)
There will never be a true pilot shortage. We nearly had one last year, but instead of raising wages to attract more pilots, they just lower the minimums.
A pilot can be created in less than a year. This has been proven. Because of this, there will never be an actual pilot shortage. |
Originally Posted by NightIP
(Post 517811)
You're missing one thing: flight school admission is way down right now. Flight schools are closing doors because they can't get enough students to start flying, mostly due to their inability to get financing. If that continues, then yes, we may just have a real pilot shortage. We'll see.
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Originally Posted by NightIP
(Post 517811)
You're missing one thing: flight school admission is way down right now. Flight schools are closing doors because they can't get enough students to start flying, mostly due to their inability to get financing. If that continues, then yes, we may just have a real pilot shortage. We'll see.
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