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nightice 12-14-2008 09:54 AM

9E loses AVL Ground Ops Bid
 
c/p from 9E:

"....Russ Elander.... updated the bidding status for all of our partner city locations. We are disappointed we did not win the Asheville-Hendersonville, NC (AVL) bid and want thank all of our AVL People for their dedication to the Pinnacle family. Let me emphasize that this bidding process has nothing to do with their performance. It is our intent to negotiate with Continental to continuing our ground handling for them in AVL. We have already been in contact with Continental and will hear from them soon. Nothing new on the other city awards, but we will let you know as soon as we do."

Hope this loss isn't a sign of things to come for 9E ground ops!:(
The article did not mention who was awarded the contract..does anyone know?

siuaviation 12-14-2008 10:19 AM

One of the ramp/counter guys said they are being taken over by Comair.

bored 12-14-2008 01:36 PM

There are about 50 stations that are up for ground handling rebid. There are going to be lots of changes.

hotelmode 12-14-2008 01:37 PM

yeah all the ASA people are out, too. Comair is taking over for the delta side of things, I just hope most of the good folks at AVL (don't know their names but definitely know their faces) can get hired on by Comair.

nightice 12-14-2008 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by hotelmode (Post 518301)
yeah all the ASA people are out, too. Comair is taking over for the delta side of things, I just hope most of the good folks at AVL (don't know their names but definitely know their faces) can get hired on by Comair.

ASA 'AND' Pinnacle folks BOTH lost out to Comair in AVL?? Yikes! Makes me wonder about TYS, CHA and TRI! :eek: Surely Comair won't win ALL of the 50+ station bids?!:mad:

Didn't 9E just staff AVL OPS very recently??

mooney 12-14-2008 04:04 PM

i wonder if the guys who post over on airlinerampercentral.com are having a discusion about how 1 crappy regional stole another crappy regional's ground services, and about which ramp service is not the one bringing down the industry. But something tells me they are more professional than that....:D

tlwsports 12-14-2008 04:04 PM

There are about 19 ASA cities up for bid. Delta is just about putting all the DCI cities up for bid. They (DL) are trying to cut cost. If you work for ASA i would be very worried. The so called retention package ASA is giving its emp is a joke.
Comair stands a good chance at winning a lot of cities. Because they dont pay very well. As for the Pinnacle emp some them will get rasies. Because they also dont pay very well. Also dont look for Pinnacle to work COEX very long. From what i here they will want to rebid AVL with only 2 flts you cant very well make money. My guess US Air EXP may get it since CO wants out of Sky Team and into Star where USAIR Exp is.

mohaupt 12-15-2008 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by tlwsports (Post 518375)
There are about 19 ASA cities up for bid. Delta is just about putting all the DCI cities up for bid. They (DL) are trying to cut cost. If you work for ASA i would be very worried. The so called retention package ASA is giving its emp is a joke.
.

I just have to laugh.... If you work for ASA I would be very worried?

I am just as worried as the next guy except, I haven't been F-ed yet... I think if you work at ANY regional you should be worried.

~m

JetPipeOverht 12-15-2008 09:14 PM

yeah whatever about the ASA speculation, all i've got to say is we're all going to see this through 08' into '09 and whoever's left standing is a winner. Don't think cause you're airline hasn't been mentioned you're safe,or better than us

heywood 12-16-2008 05:12 AM

Any word on any other stations?? Such as TRI......ROA.....CRW?? I guess it doesn't really matter, but will be hard to see the people that we have gotten to know at outstations get replaced by the next group of people willing to work for less....wow they must feel like pilots!!!

nightice 12-16-2008 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by heywood (Post 519424)
Any word on any other stations?? Such as TRI......ROA.....CRW?? I guess it doesn't really matter, but will be hard to see the people that we have gotten to know at outstations get replaced by the next group of people willing to work for less....wow they must feel like pilots!!!

No word on any other stations...as of yet but should be forthcoming in the next few weeks...very interesting. With Comair winning AVL, who knows what's next?

405PA 12-16-2008 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by heywood (Post 519424)
Any word on any other stations?? Such as TRI......ROA.....CRW?? I guess it doesn't really matter, but will be hard to see the people that we have gotten to know at outstations get replaced by the next group of people willing to work for less....wow they must feel like pilots!!!

Mesaba already has ground ops in TRI and CRW so if I was a betting man.......

nightice 12-16-2008 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by 405PA (Post 519836)
Mesaba already has ground ops in TRI and CRW so if I was a betting man.......

9E had ground ops in AVL, too...I don't think it really matters who has what at the current moment, depends on who Daddy Delta wants.

TYS, for example, currently has 9E and Comair...one has to go. It could be both and Mesaba could come in and take it all over..who knows.
I wonder what will happen to the MX facility at TYS should Comair win? That's a nice hangar!

Boomer 12-16-2008 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by nightice (Post 519854)
I wonder what will happen to the MX facility at TYS should Comair win? That's a nice hangar!

If it's as nice as the Mesaba hanger in CVG, it will sit empty.

nightice 12-16-2008 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 519953)
If it's as nice as the Mesaba hanger in CVG, it will sit empty.

Are you serious??:eek:

teamdothis 12-17-2008 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by hotelmode (Post 518301)
yeah all the ASA people are out, too. Comair is taking over for the delta side of things, I just hope most of the good folks at AVL (don't know their names but definitely know their faces) can get hired on by Comair.

Good luck with that sinking ship:rolleyes:


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 519953)
If it's as nice as the Mesaba hanger in CVG, it will sit empty.


Originally Posted by nightice (Post 520046)
Are you serious??:eek:

Ive seen it, its true. Helps to keep expence down if you dont staff it or stock it with parts:D

James Bond 12-17-2008 05:54 AM

[quote=mohaupt;519271]I just have to laugh.... If you work for ASA I would be very worried?


I doubt any of the ASA employees that work at up for bid stations are laughing very hard.

tlwsports 12-17-2008 03:38 PM

The other 18 ASA stations will find out in mid-Jan I wish them the very very best, Because there going to need it. I would not be surprised if they lose all 18. Delta is looking at just about one thing money. And Comair Pinnacle operate very cheap because they dont pay there employees very well. After those 18 stations are done, Big Daddy Delta will will look at more. I would not be suprised if in 2 years all ASA will have is Pilots,F/A Mtc and the G/O people.

H46Bubba 12-17-2008 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 519953)
If it's as nice as the Mesaba hanger in CVG, it will sit empty.

Yeah well that was property of MAIR Holdings and didn't get transfered in the sale to Northwest, hence why the Big Sky 1900's were being stored there. But since MAIR holdings is defunct, it is and has always been KCAB owned. They want a hefty sum to rent it out. We've tried to get them to drop the price, but Delta doesn't want to pay it...yet.:rolleyes:

H46Bubba 12-17-2008 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by nightice (Post 519854)
9E had ground ops in AVL, too...I don't think it really matters who has what at the current moment, depends on who Daddy Delta wants.

TYS, for example, currently has 9E and Comair...one has to go. It could be both and Mesaba could come in and take it all over..who knows.
I wonder what will happen to the MX facility at TYS should Comair win? That's a nice hangar!

Just because you don't have ground ops, doesn't mean you have to leave your mx facility. Comair no longer does ground ops in MCO, but we have a mx facility. The same goes for GSO as well.


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