US Airways Express incident in PHL
 

Hopefully everybody is ok, gotta love NBC reporting. :mad:

Jet Makes Crash Landing at Philadelphia International | NBC Philadelphia

Gotta love it... "crash landing"....

piedmont a month ago now air wisconsin whos next???

the media can suck it hardcore ... they always blow everything out of proportion ... there weren't even any pax on board ... What the F? they must have been running out of things to talk about

thank god no one was hurt.

Kudos to the crew getting it down and stopped without injury. Interestingly enough, right around this time last year another Air Wisconsin CRJ200 went off of an icy runway in Providence RI (PVD) and if I recall, it was the left main gear that collapsed. Obviously just a coincidence and two different situations of course....

Thank you for adding that in ... I forgot to include that in my post! I'm VERY glad that no one was injured!!

I'm glad to see nobody was hurt also. There was also a nose gear up landing by a Gulfstream Airlines Beech 1900 in DuBois earlier in the month also. Maybe PA just has bad chi this winter? I sure hope not.

Nice reporting...

The crew could not get the landing gear to "descend"? Actually, the landing gear descended when the plane descended.

Oh, it wouldn't "extend"? That's different.

Two different aircraft.

According to local news; All Female Crew.

That.....is.....so.....hot.

Well it was nice having 70 airplanes again...for what 3 months? Oh well 69's not a bad number :cool:

Glad our crew was ok......im sure we are gonna get an email now about landing gear extension speeds now :rolleyes:

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Glad the crew got it down safe and sound! And thankfully no passengers were on board to experience it.

What is better than a 3 woman crew?





A 3 woman crew + ME ;)

In PVD last year, the gear came down, but the force from the impact caused it to break. Strictly coincidence.

Still no official word from the company about anything... no PIF, email, or anything whatsoever. I wonder if anyone up there in toon-town (HQ at ATW) even knows this happened yet. Yes it is sarcasm, but they are so removed from day to day ops that my lame attempt at sarcastic humor applies.

They have a tidbit on the myairwis website....

Uncle hooley is.

So i saw it in the hangar yesterday....the managed to get the left main down. Someone brought this up. All female crew right?

What do you think the odds were that they couldnt lift the emergency gear extension?? I mean it requires what 40-50 lbs draw weight??? I just cant imagine the emergency extension not working especially since Hydraulic 2 helps force the gear down.

Mind you i didnt bring this up...another captain did...im not trying to sound sexist or anything.

At least on of the pilots was a women, I heard the whole thing go down on the radio

Congrats on the upgrade!

deleted.... I went OT again.... whoops, my bad...

Too late. You sound sexist. You're the one that repeated it on a pilot message board. What do you think the chances are that those pilots managed to pass their sim checks without being able to lift the emergency gear extension? Or that they would actually try to land with one up without trying everything?

Maybe they were just too worn out from their pillow fight at the hotel the night before.

Agreed on all points. Even if they were a couple of pudgy ex-Riddle frats boys who could barely raise a Guinness with one hand, I'm sure any pair of airline pilots would be smart enough have both plus the flight attendant pulling on the emergency gear release rather than execute a gear up landing.

Professional Pilot News: Air Wisconsin regional jet incident at Philadelphia

Did you have to raise the emergency gear extension handle in training?? I sure didn't. But I can tell you that I've done it in-flight for a hydraulically-related gear-emergency, and it required everything I had, while standing over it, to extend the handle.

Yes, as part of the emergency training.

Before you put your foot any further down your throat...i did not repeat this on the message board...i think ive posted twice on the company forum and it involved leather jackets.

It was brought up to me and my Captain by another Captain at our company...i was just passing it along...you ask anyone who knows me...im far from sexist...I have flown with a alot of female Captains and they all had every right to be in that seat.

My point was that i could see it being an issue because I know a few women who can lift a 50 lb bag of flour. The handle on the RJ is in an awkward shape and in a bad position. Its definately easier to pull if you have some weight behind you.

Yes, I did.

My foot's nowhere near my throat. APC forums is a better place to post your stupid comments? Because it'll reach fewer pilots, right?

I'm pretty sure if one female pilot couldn't move the thing, she'd ask for help and I bet between the 3 of them, they could manage to move it. Next you'll be saying she can't apply enough rudder pressure if an engine were to fail and therefore women shouldn't fly multiengine airplanes.

And Jake, thanks for the ditto. Pretty ridiculous to think ANY pilot would choose to land with one main up without trying all the options.

True story:

My wife (a fairly ardent feminist) was going though 727 Systems class at Purdue, and during a discussion of the flight engineer panel the professor asked "Who knows where the clock is located?"

My wife instantly responds "On the stove?"

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My point is this - just because somebody asks a question doesn't mean there is more behind it...

Exactly. Pillow fights are that intense.

I read awhile back that physically-fit females actually tend to perform better under OEI because women use their lower-body strength more efficiently than men (also explains why they are excellent rock-climbers -- they don't monkey around, swinging around with their arms like their male counterparts).

Before you put your foot any further into your mouth, passing along sexist, racist or other derogatory comments, even with a "But I'm not a XXXX" comment, doesn't absolve you from being held accountable for it.

There's no question some pilots, regardless of gender, are stronger or weaker than others. The problem isn't their gender, but whether or not they can do the job. If neither pilot could operate the handle, then there is either a problem with Air Willies' training program or the ergonomics of a CRJ-200.

Either way, passing along the idea that the problem is gender is narrow-minded and unhelpful in resolving the real issues.

Get over yorself alright? I have said nothing like that...Because i bring the topic up...im automatically the one that gets grilled?

Bottom line is that none of us were there so we cant say for sure....I was merely adding what somone else brought up and decided to release it to the masses and see what they thought....or if anyones had experience with this lever....

My point was that I cant see Bombardier creating a redundant system for manual gear extension that isnt going to work. So why didnt it work if it was pulled? But if they couldnt pull it...that explains.

We were told in training that it was damn near impossible to do in the sim but that it was much easier in the actual airplane....but none of the instructors know for sure because they havent done it....its all hearsay

Y'all are just so PC...:rolleyes: