Mesa Emergency Landing in CHO
 

Anyone know anything about Mesa doing an emergency landing in CHO last night? I was flying out and saw them come in... something about being low on fuel. I can only assume they were trying to go somewhere else in the Northeast and were not able to get in due to the crappy weather that pounded us yesterday. A LOT of flights were canceled ... I think the visibility at IAD when we left to come back home was reported as 0 with VV001 ... great stuff :rolleyes:

You at your 100 hours yet or are you still still needing that 1 mile.

Airlines have emergency landings every day. What's so big about this one to mention it specifically?

Low fuel? When Hurricane Ike rolled through the midwest a few months ago, an RJ landed in IND with 1100 lbs of fuel. That didn't get mentioned here?

I can recall a couple years ago when my airline had 11 flap fails in 1 day.

Wow, skippy...I bet he's just curious is all. Put it on ice!!

Nah, should be past the 100 hours next month sometime ... if we had shot the approach into IAD about 30min later, we wouldn't have gotten in...

Really just curious is all bud. I didn't start this thread to put down anyone at all, just wondering what exactly happened. When I was talking to ops after we got back they told me the crew was pretty shaken up. I mentioned this one because I was actually at the airport when they came in and just wanted to know how they ended up in CHO of all places.

At least someone understands why I started this, lol

Well that explains why they would have been so low on fuel ... yeesh, that's rough

18 Minutes?!?! No reason to be low on fuel...What am I missing LoL

Everytime I've done IAD-ROA I haven't had a problem, but they didn't give me a heck of a lot of gas. This may have been just one of those situations where an oversight took place with the gas. I've actually never had to divert before, in my year and a half here. Of course now that I just said that.....

So what happened? They flew to ROA, couldn't get in, and then went straight to CHO? Or did they try more approaches into ROA? At least they all got on the ground safely!

All's well that ends well...!

Oh, by the way, we landed an RJ last year at a hair over 1200 pounds...got caught in a 170 knot headwind from which there was no escape. The Fuel page automatically pops up on ED2 at ~1400.

I don't want to get my head ripped off, but FWIW I was on with Madison tonight and heard ASH7099 make an emergency landing due to some sort of an anti-ice failure...

Things like this are a interesting to us guys that still cruise around the skies in pistons...

Ayep...well that's pucker factor for anybody on a night like tonight in the Midwest!

I'll second that ... that's one nasty storm that's moving through!

The only reason this thread exists is because Mesa is in the title.

Perhaps you missed the COEX aircraft in the snow, or the CAL off the runway, or the Avantair off the taxiway, or the Colgan being towed at IAH...

No, the only reason why this thread exists is because I happened to be there when it happened and was just wondering what caused it and how they ended up in CHO ... I would have posted it for any airline. I'm not judging Mesa because they had to make an emergency landing.

At what point into the flight did you know you were going to fly into your 1900lb (or whatever SKW uses) reserve fuel in order to make destination?

Given reported winds at various altitudes, the box was showing us landing with just over 2000 FOB (what company likes to plan for, by the way). Unfortunately, those calmer winds failed to materialize, leaving us at low altitude over the Sea of Michigan. Taken with adverse winds and the hub's "bank" at the same time, nothing happened quickly. Min-fuel was declared, and at 1200 as per SOP, Emergency would have been declared as well.

We followed all company guidance regarding the matter, did not divert unnecessarily, and even got the folks at the gate within A:14. Remember, it is not a requirement to land with specified reserves. Would you have immediately diverted at 2000 lbs FOB??

I know that you are not typically argumentative, so if you are going to question my crew's judgement, please be a bit more tactful?

All I did was ask a question - a plenty tactful one at that. Don't read anything into the words I typed other than the aforementioned question.

If I were questioning your crew's judgment, I've have come right out and done so.

Here are the deets on the ROA-CHO flight: Flight departed ROA for IAD, the gear would not retract and a significant fuel burn was added. On approach into IAD the non existant visability would not allow for landing, so the flight diverted and due to the gear extended burn factor, CHO was left as the only suitable alternate. IAD ATC declared the emergancy for the flight and had crash and rescue waiting at CHO.

The captain was very shaken up by the entire gear issue and bad weather conditions at IAD.

Thanks Release! Now we can quit armchair-quarterbacking LoL

Is this fairly standard procedure that the aircraft would leave ROA with a gear problem and continue to IAD with known weather?

USMCFLYR

Well they probably didn't know they had a gear problem until they took off and tried to retract it, but on a 25 minute flight like that, I too would rather continue to destination (back to a hub) where there are better crash, fire and rescue options and a maintenance base with of course longer runways that aren't on the side of a mountain.

Then again, you have the weather issue. I wasn't there so I can't say "Oh I'd do this, and then this..." blah blah blah.

I know our ORD-SBN flight that had the gear problem returned to ORD since it's such a short flight and they had to burn the gas off.

Does that help?

I actually thought about this after I posted the question. I'm used to having that ability to adjust your gross weight if needed and I forget that you would have to possibly burn some fuel off in any case.
Thanks.

USMCFLYR

Go arounds are not an option in Roanoke.

The plane is still sitting in cho as far as I know too. It wa still there yesterday afternoon

Little defensive there? If you didn't want to be questioned on it, then why'd you say it on here? I don't think anyone is here to be argumentative (at least not in this thread).

That's right:rolleyes:, just ask captain "tail dragger."

Umm, I think they are. I'm not about to get my lazy butt out of bed to go get my flight bag, but I'm pretty sure I brief a missed approach/go around every time I go in there, because it says it right on the Jepp chart.

121 Ops always have an "out" or three.

Me, defensive?!?! Never! ;):D:p