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flyandive 12-23-2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DublinFlyer (Post 524486)
I've never heard about that system before. So what's the point of that system anyways? Does it just prevent one flap from going down farther than the other? I've only heard of the flaps just getting stuck down in one position or not coming down at all. I should probably read more into this, and become more familiar with some previous situations that have happened. I probably sound like an idiot.

Exactly, but more specifically one side of a flap panel coming down faster than the other side. In other words the whole panel twisting. The idea is that it stops them in a certain position before they twist.

If it gets any kind of an abnormality it stops the motor and engages the brakes thereby holding it in position against the slipstream.

higney85 12-23-2008 03:49 PM

I'm waiting for an AD prohibiting the use of flaps unless in the case of an emergency.

CRJPlt 12-23-2008 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DublinFlyer (Post 524359)
I've never had a problem with flaps (with the exception of flaps/slats halfspeed on the 700). Is this a design problem, or a flap motor problem? I fly the bugger and I still don't know all the details.


Wow, I'd say your pretty lucky. I flew the CRJ for two and a half months and somehow managed to have TWO flap failures and these were in my first week of IOE!

flyandive 12-23-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CRJPlt (Post 524522)
Wow, I'd say your pretty lucky. I flew the CRJ for two and a half months and somehow managed to have TWO flap failures and these were in my first week of IOE!

LOL, yeah that sounds more like it. I had one going into JFK (used all of 31L for landing), then I switched to the 700/900 which doesn't have these problems. Just a much better design from a pilot's perspective.
Spending time with some of our mechanics, however, they had the exact opposite perspective except when it came to the flaps (pain in the arse to repair). They preferred working on the 100/200. They said when the 50 seater was broken, you knew it was broken. The 700/900 was just one big electrical glitch waiting to happen.

I have to agree with Dubflyer though, the CRJ is a fun airplane, you do learn to expect the unexpected!. Never flown the jungle jet though so I can't comment on it.

the turtle 12-23-2008 07:33 PM

I have thousands of hours in both (sorry to say) and the ERJ was a better airplane. We didn't think that at the time, when the erj first came out we suspected it was a throwaway pos, but we were wrong

weasil 12-23-2008 08:22 PM

I had my first flap failure in the 200 this past weekend. Not much fun landing in blowing snow with wind gusts to 37kts, going 170 kts over the fence. Used up every inch of that runway (8000'). Got to the gate to find out we were the second RJ that day to have a flap failure at that airport and the day was young.

flyandive 12-23-2008 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by the turtle (Post 524632)
I have thousands of hours in both (sorry to say) and the ERJ was a better airplane. We didn't think that at the time, when the erj first came out we suspected it was a throwaway pos, but we were wrong

Based on what I have heard I would agree for the 50 seater. Not so sure for the CRJ-700/900 vs. the E-170/190, but whatever, we ARE NOT turning this in to a Jungle Jet vs Tundra Jet fight!

Blkflyer 12-23-2008 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by flyandive (Post 524677)
Based on what I have heard I would agree for the 50 seater. Not so sure for the CRJ-700/900 vs. the E-170/190, but whatever, we ARE NOT turning this in to a Jungle Jet vs Tundra Jet fight!

Honestly the Airplane that pays the most while giving you the most time off is the best

UpThere 12-24-2008 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Blkflyer (Post 524703)
Honestly the Airplane that pays the most while giving you the most time off is the best

Agreed, 100%!!!!

ExperimentalAB 12-24-2008 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Blkflyer (Post 524703)
Honestly the Airplane that pays the most while giving you the most time off is the best

That would most certainly be the CRJ for me...but that doesn't mean I can't fantasize about being at the controls of an ERJ again :D


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