s10an

Had a mesa Fa non-reving on a flight today, and she said that in the new contract (or ta), the flight attendants will be allowed to jumseat on their on airplanes...

Can anyone confirm this... How does this work with CASS??

dojetdriver

I'm guessing that is has NOTHING to do with the cockpit JS. There are lots of airlines that allow their FA's to "Jumpseat" on their own airline. SOME airlines allow other airline FA's to JS on them. They are allowed to occupy the FA's JS. Now, I don't know about MESA's ERJ's, but the aircraft does have an aft FA JS that our FA's are allowed to occupy if the flight is full.

Also, depending on how the non rev agreement is structured, you can be charged a fee to non rev, even on your own airline. If using the JS, it won't cost the anything.

BringDaFunk

Ive heard a few companies allow their FA's to acces the FD jumpseat jetblue being the biggest.I personally don't see the big deal-although you are signing up to be an XCM when you jumpseat-when i have an emergency im not gonna involve the help of another person-so if you think your gonna be workin the radios when i lose an engine over the hudson...think again. Flight attendants, dispatchers, controllers, mechanics are all fine to ride with me -that is if it was up to me.
A one day class during recurrent could show them policy and procedure.

ToiletDuck

They already come in when one of the crew has to go to the restroom however I can only imagine the amount of chattering they'd introduce. Pilots know how to hear a callsign and general procedures. In general they pipe down at the right times as to not interfere with what's going on. I'm not dissing all FA's but within my own base there are several that spending any lengthy amount of time with in the cp would make me want to jump out.

whiskey72

You never know what help your gonna need. So let me pose this. With your huge ego waying your head down, when you suffer a heart attack or something in the line of an anuerism that causes you to slump forward because your seatbelts weren't locked. The other crewmember might need some help hauling your body off the controls. They can't fly the plane and push you around. That might be an instance where you need someone to help out. You'd be thankful they were there then.

But based on your shortsighted response, I most certainly assume you'd be able to just jump in the phonebooth kick out the bottom of the plane and with the big S painted on your underoos, gently lower the plane to safety, all by yourself.

Never underestimate the help of ANY individual be it FA, FO, or any other jumpseat rider you may have on your flight deck.

Whiskey

Colnago

That's a very absolute statement and extremely silly, to say the least.

FlyerJosh

I've had plenty of FA's on the jumpseat in the cockpit over my time with the airlines. Mostly on ferry flights or empty charter repos.

The talking really isn't an issue and you can do a lot to show them the intricacies of your job and how they can help in a big picture sort of way during normal operations.

paxhauler85

This most likely pertains to a new contract they have, which allows them to occupy the 2nd jumpseat in the CRJ. This could possibly allow them to jumpseat on other airlines, which some of them claim is not currently allowed.

To my knowledge, FAs are not allowed on the flight deck jumpseat, unless the CA allows it during a repo flight.

Lowlevel

2nd JS on a CRJ? Where is that located? And Freedom does not have CRJ's. Mesa has 900's, but there are two F/A's on it (occupying both JS's).

Justdoinmyjob

Could be like the program Delta has for offline FA jumpseating. Any OAL FA can "jumpseat," but they are actually on an ID00. They are not allowed to occupy the actual js, there has to be an open seat, but it costs them nothing. They also don't have to check-in with the captain, because they are listed as non-revs, not XCMs.