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tflyer70 01-01-2009 07:12 PM

Mesaba's airlink agreement (Saab and/or CRJ)
 
I've exhausted all internet searches for the past two days and cannot find details specific to the airlink service agreement between Northwest and Mesaba, and or the restructuring details. Apparetnly the mesaba-restructuring site has been pulled down. This is for part of my graduate research paper on XJ. Are these even available for viewing (non-fee)? Any help with hyperlinks or such would be appreciated as I would like to know items such as:

-Is the agreement a "capacity purchase" or "pro rate" type of service agreements.

-who pays for fuel (I believe when I was flying there, Mesaba paid for the fule on the SF, and the fuel for the Avro was paid by NW)

-are the metrics (A14, D0, completion) still the factors associated with payments

etc.................

Thanks, TF

submachXJ 01-03-2009 12:34 PM

Mesaba is wholly owned by NWA or now delta and as such I don't believe there are any agreements anymore. They can change stuff at a whim since we are wholly owned.

RJSAviator76 01-03-2009 12:44 PM

I'm really curious how come Delta doesn't use excusively the wholly-owneds to do its flying??? Could it be to preclude the repeat of Comair strike in 01?

Confused 01-03-2009 03:46 PM

Yah I dont know. You think it would make more sense to keep all the of the money under the big airline's books, not sending it out to another carrier. Also if you own that airline you can do with it as you want not having to worry about following the rules and spec's of a contract.

There is obviously more to it than I understand but I do wonder about this.

Avroman 01-03-2009 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 530051)
I'm really curious how come Delta doesn't use excusively the wholly-owneds to do its flying??? Could it be to preclude the repeat of Comair strike in 01?

Largely yes, Delta is still bitter almost 10 years later about that strike. They farmed out as much as they could after that despite the costs. There has been talk that they have realized that maybe the costs are too high for the amount put out but hoping all will ever come back under only 1 or 2 regionals is well foolish. 7 or 8 probably, 5 or 6 maybe, less than 5, about as much chance as the Lions winning Super Bowl 45.

tflyer70 01-04-2009 06:47 AM

Guys, thanks for the responses. I have been researching this for literally 3 full days, scouring legal websites from MN, as well as document supported sites that I can access from Embry Riddle World Wide. Im just going to assume that the CRJ JET AIRLINK agreement has not been uplinked anywhere on the web. I was able to find the details from MAIR's last 10k report on what I need, but since XJ became a wholly owned, Im sure that has changed as well. But there still is the notion that a "CRJ900 agreement" exists from some of the PR news websites, what detials there are is still the big unknown. With the buyout from Delta of Northwest, does this open any loop-holes for "airline service contracts" with regional partners to be re-negotiated, or are they grandfathered?? That was some other info I was looking for, but yet again--no specifics to be found.........TF

Boomer 01-04-2009 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Confused (Post 530129)
Yah I dont know. You think it would make more sense to keep all the of the money under the big airline's books, not sending it out to another carrier.

Delta would rather farm it out, pay an outside vendor (RAH, etc.) millions in profits to do the flying, then let that outside vendor spend those profits to bail out Delta's competitors (Midwest, USAir, Frontier, etc.)

I'm not saying Delta looked that far ahead... maybe it's just to punish Comair for their insolence after all.


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