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CRJPlt 01-10-2009 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 535097)
Would you go back? Were the 64 active pilots or still in class when furloughed?

Hell no I'm not going back. I'm in training at Mesaba now and had to give up my seniority. (They really had to twist my arm to give that up :p) There were 49 furloughed that were in ground school in July. Then they furloughed another 15 in October that were out on the line. I was one of those lucky 15....

Mazer 01-10-2009 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by RU4692 (Post 535099)
Mesa Pilots at their finest. Congrats lady's and Gent's, you have one great Airline.

Cant blame him, you all wish him out of his job.

arizonastpilot 01-10-2009 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by RU4692 (Post 535099)
Mesa Pilots at their finest. Congrats lady's and Gent's, you have one great Airline.

Your Kidding me right!!!!!! You need to get your eyes checked buddy.

logic1 01-10-2009 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by RU4692 (Post 535099)
Mesa Pilots at their finest. Congrats lady's and Gent's, you have one great Airline.

You dont get it!

samuraiguytn 01-11-2009 07:14 AM

Mesa is a terrible airline, When I was a ramp agent, freedom would land and their force fed release wouldn't show up. You call there dispatch to get one and they would say "we don't fly into there" what kinda crap is that. The pilot group isn't the bad part, and I don't want to see anyone on the street. But If I work for a decent company and there is another company out there with similar badging that does crappy work, it makes us look bad. SO on that note, yeah I wish Mesa would drop off the planet. Like what was said before, that extra flying will be picked up, along with the pilots.

And from what I have heard ( buddy of mine one of the 64 fed) the give their own new hires the run around on training. They never call when classes are changed and they don't rebook classes when they need to be. Makes the pilots have to stay weeks on end at the hotel doing nothing. That Hotel BS makes since now.

airdog 01-11-2009 07:37 AM

What will bondholders due?
 
I agree that according to the debt obligations JO can use stock to pay off the bondholders IF they elect to exercise their puts in Jan/Feb.

However, at the close Friday the 9th, the TOTAL market cap of MESA was $7.52 million and the amount of debt that could come due if the puts are exercised is about $95 million. How can you pay off $95 million with $7.52 million?

I don't know if the bondholders will go to court, but I think they would have a strong equitable argument that stock cannot be used to satisfy the debt. Who knows, however, what they'll do - they may let JO limp along.

logic1 01-11-2009 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by samuraiguytn (Post 535568)
Mesa is a terrible airline, When I was a ramp agent, freedom would land and their force fed release wouldn't show up. You call there dispatch to get one and they would say "we don't fly into there" what kinda crap is that. The pilot group isn't the bad part, and I don't want to see anyone on the street. But If I work for a decent company and there is another company out there with similar badging that does crappy work, it makes us look bad. SO on that note, yeah I wish Mesa would drop off the planet. Like what was said before, that extra flying will be picked up, along with the pilots.

And from what I have heard ( buddy of mine one of the 64 fed) the give their own new hires the run around on training. They never call when classes are changed and they don't rebook classes when they need to be. Makes the pilots have to stay weeks on end at the hotel doing nothing. That Hotel BS makes since now.

Wow.....you can make that statement about almost every airlineout there.

rickair7777 01-11-2009 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by airdog (Post 535580)
I don't know if the bondholders will go to court, but I think they would have a strong equitable argument that stock cannot be used to satisfy the debt. Who knows, however, what they'll do - they may let JO limp along.

I think the language may require that they accept stock based on the recent price, with no provision to account for a value drop caused by the the issuance of a ludicrous amount of new stock.

But I would sue him too...if I were going to get left holding the short end of that stick I would consider it fraud.

rickair7777 01-11-2009 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by logic1 (Post 535617)
Wow.....you can make that statement about almost every airlineout there.

Not really.

OscarOscar 01-11-2009 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by logic1 (Post 535617)

Originally Posted by samuraiguytn
Mesa is a terrible airline, When I was a ramp agent, freedom would land and their force fed release wouldn't show up. You call there dispatch to get one and they would say "we don't fly into there" what kinda crap is that. The pilot group isn't the bad part, and I don't want to see anyone on the street. But If I work for a decent company and there is another company out there with similar badging that does crappy work, it makes us look bad. SO on that note, yeah I wish Mesa would drop off the planet. Like what was said before, that extra flying will be picked up, along with the pilots.

And from what I have heard ( buddy of mine one of the 64 fed) the give their own new hires the run around on training. They never call when classes are changed and they don't rebook classes when they need to be. Makes the pilots have to stay weeks on end at the hotel doing nothing. That Hotel BS makes since now.

Wow.....you can make that statement about almost every airlineout there.


Was their a statement made cause that didn't make any cents.

Umm....Preview Post?






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