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Nevets 01-20-2009 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 538602)
None of us 60+% regret it and certanly not me. We're still better than just about all alpo regionals.

That's the problem. You don't regret riding coat tails. Its not just about regionals. Its about the profession as a whole.


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 540872)
That's a little harsh considering which pilot group appears to be happy and which one has taken paycuts. With all of ALPA's failures stacking up I wouldn't exactly pick them as some sort of poster child for why unions are great and I certainly wouldn't use them as a reason to throw stones at another airline with a happy pilot group. It's like you're just upset because someone else is happy. If RAH or SKYW came out tomorrow and announced a new contract with a 20% pay increase instead of congratulating them you'd sit there and say it happened because they lowballed someone.

Ignorance is bliss. ALPA has many more victories for the profession as a whole in the last 75+ years than failures. People just have very short memories. Its not just about being happy but also about contributing to the profession. A 20% pay increase at RAH would be different than a pay increase at SKW anyways and it has nothing to do with lowballing.

shamrok 01-22-2009 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 538164)
About 500 give or take a few with our out of date seniority list

Most senior goes back over 10 years but the average CA is a 2005 hire

The median would be about 2 years but the average is a little lopsided because we have increased the group by 40% in the last 2 years

I have been at Colgan for almost 2 years and I have 52% of the group below me because of the big Q hiring spree. I am for a merged list with fences so that all of us FO's who have waited can get their upgrade and furture FO's will have the opportunity to fly whatever aircraft they can hold down the road. 2-3 year fence would be great.

Those are my thoughts also. It only makes sense.


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