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eaglefly 01-23-2009 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by joethepilot (Post 543875)
NO... you morons... this has nothing to do with merger. You know we hired for 15 airplanes but are only getting 5 of those? So we're about a hundred people fat. Now if you're Mesaba does it make more sense to get rid of a bunch of senior people that make $$$$ or furlough a bunch of first year fo's that make -$ ??? Thats right get rid of the senior ppl, before you furlough to trim the fat. Just like any other airline that has ever had extra pilots on the roster.

A page taken from Eagle's recent playbook.

TristarJS30 01-23-2009 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by joethepilot (Post 543875)
NO... you morons... this has nothing to do with merger. You know we hired for 15 airplanes but are only getting 5 of those? So we're about a hundred people fat. Now if you're Mesaba does it make more sense to get rid of a bunch of senior people that make $$$$ or furlough a bunch of first year fo's that make -$ ??? Thats right get rid of the senior ppl, before you furlough to trim the fat. Just like any other airline that has ever had extra pilots on the roster.

Um, Comair furloughed 298 of us before ever offering a buyout. Of course it makes sense, but airline management doesn't play that game.

I tend to agree and see a merger in the works somewhere down the line, but unfortunately thanks to ALPA's dirty little secrets, I (along with 297 other Comair folks) will be stapled to the bottom of the seniority list, put junior to guys that we are senior to.

proskuneho 01-23-2009 07:31 PM

Why do these forums always turn into a pi$$ing match about whose weiner is bigger? Let's have an exchange of information and ideas without being rude. You guys are lucky to have Mesaba jobs. Except for a two year break, I have worked for flight schools since 2001. I would LOVE to leave instructing behind. Just remember you're on the same team. It doesn't matter if you fly the 340, the 200, or the "9".

tpersuit 01-23-2009 07:31 PM

ExpressJet just did this exact thing before our furloughs too. We knew at the time though that the early-outs were to mitigate furloughs though. However, maybe this is just an offer to trim some senior fat, or they are hiding that they will furlough soon. Don't see why they would hide that they would furlough though.

proskuneho 01-23-2009 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 543917)
ExpressJet just did this exact thing before our furloughs too. We knew at the time though that the early-outs were to mitigate furloughs though. However, maybe this is just an offer to trim some senior fat, or they are hiding that they will furlough soon. Don't see why they would hide that they would furlough though.

They would probably prefer to see how many $$ they can cut with early outs before being forced to furlough.

TurboDog 01-23-2009 08:18 PM

There is only about 7 people at Comair that have signed up for the Early Out/Buy Out so far. The chief pilots are saying that they don't expect many more to take the offer, and RP with forecasting and planning says that there will be another displacement bid coming out. He said Downgrades/more furloughs depends on how many people take the bait.

Comair's President is a former Compass guy and he is primarily aligning this operation to that of Compass. I wouldn't doubt a Compass, Mesaba,Comair merger. Compass doesn't have any senior people, so there is no need to trim fat there. Then you see the same programs and Comair and Mesaba. Good luck guys.

flycrj200 01-23-2009 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by joethepilot (Post 543908)
Hmm.. you're a 200 FO... you've been here just over a year... yes you indeed have the magic crystal ball. Yet you attack me... My answer makes more rational sense than any argument you've made.

Am a 200 FO? what does this have to do with anything? I have been where for just a year? You have no clue what your taking about. I'm not attacking you but YOU calling people morons because you do not agree with their point of view is very childish.

Purpleanga 01-23-2009 09:41 PM

I'm assuming all those who might be furloughed have already been furloughed somewhere else and forced to give up seniority. Nice, why do we put up with this profession.

USMC3197 01-23-2009 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 543985)
I'm assuming all those who might be furloughed have already been furloughed somewhere else and forced to give up seniority. Nice, why do we put up with this profession.

OH..... ouch.... I didn't even think about that one. Well were those 15 900's the final delivery for you guys or do you guys have more orders for aircraft later on during the year?

ConnectionPilot 01-23-2009 10:27 PM

Northwest has had options for 36 more -900s...correct me if I am wrong.


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