Just more proof why nobody should accept jobs at any of those places.... you are your own worst enemies.... take a worthless job, then do nothing but complain about it... the answer was to NOT take the job.

You could be furloughed and not have any bennies? :) DAL has been doing this for a while it seems. I dont see why non-mainline guys are getting upset about this. Contract carriers are not mainline, thus if we dont get mainline bennies, do we have a right to complain? I'm seriously asking......

Do we have a right to complain? Yes, it's called free country. No but seriously, I know ranting here doesnt do any good but I still think it's unfair. Contractor or not, our flights help make up the US Airways system.
I guess you can say I should be thankful I'm not furloughed 'cause then I'll have no bennies... but then again, if I didn't have this job, I wouldn't have to commute, so I wouldn't need those benefits in the first place.

This is they way it is for us at SkyWest....and probably other contract carriers!

It's interesting, for a while there we had the worst bennies as far as money at CAL, but I thought it was worth it because we were getting to travel at the same classification as CAL employees. All my buddies at other carriers would tell me how great it was to just pay a one time fee or no fee at all per year, and how the classification didn't matter.

Well, now all those poor guys travel below mainline and pay just as much as we do. I have to admit a lot of our guys here at XJT complain about our bennies, but I get 8 free round trips a year (vacation passes) to go anywhere, typically international first class is what I get. So it balances out, even though regular pass travel is $25 round trip (domestic); and with the improvements it looks like we're on par with most majors.

It's interesting to compare, but just remember guys, it's your management and the language in the CPA that determines what you get. I could not believe when both Colgan and CHQ got their respective contracts, that the managements were ok with their employees getting SA5 status on CAL...that's lower than retired or any active employee or family members at both CAL and XJT. I just couldn't believe it. I have friends at both, and they thought for sure management was going to negotiate something better.

When did they stop charging? When I worked there they charged the yearly fee with a cap of $250.00/yr. Sounds like it is actually cheaper now than it was.

Very true, and I admit I was being a little disingenuous by leaving that bit of information out of my previous posts. However, for me personally, I preferred pass traveling at PDT, when non-revving was free unless you wanted to travel in a higher class than coach. I think I jumpseated within the Airways system exactly twice in as many years, only because coach was full. It was a lot less headache--and a lot cheaper than in the CAL system--just to list and get a seat.

What do you expect from management? Their the ones that come up with this bull crap! Maybe that is why CBA's exist.

USAir does not currently charge their mainline employees for non rev travel.

They used to charge an annual fee of $150 per employee or around $270 per family to non rev on USair. (unlimited travel for employee, spouse, children and parents)

Dave Siegel eliminated the annual non rev fees when he was in charge of USAir. There was never an explaination of why the fees were eliminated.

However, this caused another problem in that some employees started receiving 1099's for 10% of the value of the airfare that their travel card designees used. They had some quirky formula that caused "1099 imputed income" for some unmarried employees and not for married employees. This then caused income tax issues for those employees that were subject to the 1099's.

I always thought that the 1099 problem would go away if the annual fees were put back in place.

What has been said is correct; it is just about impossible to non-rev on USAir these days.

Is yours still showing $50? My account is showing the new fees for next years activation.

For Delta travel it is quite a spike in the fees but for the amount that myself and my family use them I cannot complain one bit at all. Would you rather have 1 round trip ticket from ATL or a years worth or free standby travel, first class (if open), international travel? I know which one I would pick. Besides I think we all knew this was coming. This is Delta's solution to not charge us for each flight based on mileage. That was before my time so I don't know all of the details but this sounds like a better solution for everyone.