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Originally Posted by familyguy (Post 548617)

I flew the -100 out of FLG in the winter with snow on the ground, 22 people and we were only getting 500 ft/min at 150kts. Don't get your hopes up that you will move into the PHX system, the -100 and -300 would never work out here. We tried it and canned it after only a few months. If Mesa does loose the Dash flying it will simply disappear as all the routes can and do get served by the CRJ. Unlike the east coast where smaller cities are close and abound the west coast (not including CA) is spread out. We are having to fly 2+ hours in the Dash just to find cities to serve.

So did your "Dash" happen to say "Piper" on the tail?. We fly full -100's everyday out of LGA and get triple (or more) that climb rate.

....not that 1500 fpm is spectacular :)

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Originally Posted by danam404 (Post 548792)

So did your "Dash" happen to say "Piper" on the tail?. We fly full -100's everyday out of LGA and get triple (or more) that climb rate.

....not that 1500 fpm is spectacular :)

FLG = Flagstaff, AZ. Elevation 7000 feet.

That might have something to do with the "piper" performance.

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Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 548805)

FLG = Flagstaff, AZ. Elevation 7000 feet.

That might have something to do with the "piper" performance.

He probably missed that lecture on higher elevations and aircraft performance:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by newarkblows (Post 548579)

I really wouldnt put any reasonable amount of assurance on those fleet speculations. They are required and if you look back to CAL's 3rd quarter statement they said 15 Q400's was all they had planned for till 2012 and now three months later they will have 30 by 2012. It is a constantly changing environment and the company can use that to change whatever it wrote in a previous quarterly statement.

If you were talking about adding airplanes to the fleet, then yes I would agree with your comments about not having confidence in "fleet speculations". However, this is not a CAL 3+ year outlook we're talking about here. As far as the parent company US Airways Group, and the relationship with two wholly-owned regional subsidiaries (PDT and PSA), LCC doesn't publish fleet reductions for the current year that are "speculative". If the DH8 reductions don't come from the PDT fleet, they WILL pull them from Mesa.

A similar type of fleet reduction WILL be occuring at US Airways Mainline. In the closing months of 2008, US Airways stated that they would be taking delivery of 25 aircraft, and removing 29 aircraft from the fleet in 2009, a net loss of 4 aircraft. As such, the current 8-K SEC filing now shows the total mainline fleet going from 354 aircraft to 350 aircraft by the end of 2009, again a net loss of 4 aircraft. US Airways Group has never met a fleet reduction it didn't like.

In the case of these fleet numbers for both Mainline and Express, about the only thing likely to change the outcome would be a court ruling or arbitrators decision as a result of several upcoming grievances.

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Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 548645)

Trans States ERJ aircraft, like Colgan SAABs, are operated under pro-rate revenue sharing agreement with US Airways.

Therefore, those assets would not be included in the filing.

Right you are! Thanks for the correction, I missed that the footnote in the SEC 8-K included Trans States AND Colgan.