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Old 01-30-2009, 08:28 AM
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Can you imagine what a mad house it will be when one of the regionals makes the announcement they are hiring again? Lets say Eagle is the first, and resumes in November. With the amount of guys out of work from CFI to Freight Dog, to GV and Widebody Captains, your gonna see thousands of resumes to fill what...Maybe 50-100 new hire slots at most?

With the amount of resumes that HR will receive, if there has ever been a time for uses "boxes checked, and boxes unchecked" to weed people out, than this is it....Make yourself as competitive as can be, because unlike the past two years, you are in fact competing for this position.

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Old 01-30-2009, 08:36 AM
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It will be like that at first, then as the 65ers start to retire, it'll go back to a mad house.
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It will be like that at first, then as the 65ers start to retire, it'll go back to a mad house.
I really hope your right.......
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With the amount of guys out of work from CFI to Freight Dog, to GV and Widebody Captains, your gonna see thousands of resumes to fill what...Maybe 50-100 new hire slots at most?
Not sure if I see a "G-V or a widebody captain" applying at Eagle or any regional. For guys who've been flying long range business jets and/or widebody jets, the thought of working for a regional must be a scary proposition...... when you got bills to pay, all of that goes out the window I guess
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Originally Posted by UCLAbruins View Post
Not sure if I see a "G-V or a widebody captain" applying at Eagle or any regional. For guys who've been flying long range business jets and/or widebody jets, the thought of working for a regional must be a scary proposition...... when you got bills to pay, all of that goes out the window I guess
First year pay at the regionals doesn't qualify to pay the bills, especially if you've been working as a Gulfstream captain. Even as an EMB captain, I know I wouldn't go back to another regional to start over again if I lost my job, I'd find something else. Just not worth it in my opinion....
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First year pay at the regionals doesn't qualify to pay the bills, especially if you've been working as a Gulfstream captain. Even as an EMB captain, I know I wouldn't go back to another regional to start over again if I lost my job, I'd find something else. Just not worth it in my opinion....
GMC closed their flight department, every pilot got furloughed, some of those guys were pulling down $140K flying the Gulfstreams. You are right, those guys would probably give up aviation before going back to a regional. But its not all about the money, its about ego as well, "I'm too experienced for that" and that type of thing.

Then there's the QOL issue; great QOL they had as corporate pilots, they got axed, and now they're going to a regional??? No, I just don't see it happening
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Also, wouldn't a regional be more likely to hire a 1000-2000 hour pilot with little jet experience versus a 10,000 hour 757 type rated captain? While the later is more experienced, the former is cheaper?
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Also, wouldn't a regional be more likely to hire a 1000-2000 hour pilot with little jet experience versus a 10,000 hour 757 type rated captain? While the later is more experienced, the former is cheaper?

Oh your managment potential your already looking at the bottom line

just kidding... unfortunately yes
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The Payscales are established, cheaper means nothing to them. If you've got 10k hrs, and another guy has 1k hrs, both are the same as far as the company is concerned. Might be happier to hire the lower time pilot just because they don't have turbine PIC time yet, if you hire the widebody captain, and the majors start hiring again, or recalling, then those guys have the opportunity to go back to their old jobs.

We only wish our experience would correspond with our pay, but the truth is much less enjoyable. once we're passed insurance minimums, or hiring minimums, we're all the same in the company's eyes.
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Originally Posted by flynavyj View Post
The Payscales are established, cheaper means nothing to them. If you've got 10k hrs, and another guy has 1k hrs, both are the same as far as the company is concerned. Might be happier to hire the lower time pilot just because they don't have turbine PIC time yet, if you hire the widebody captain, and the majors start hiring again, or recalling, then those guys have the opportunity to go back to their old jobs.

We only wish our experience would correspond with our pay, but the truth is much less enjoyable. once we're passed insurance minimums, or hiring minimums, we're all the same in the company's eyes.
Nope they aren't the same. The 1000 hour guy isn't going anywhere for a couple years. The former 757 captain is bailing in 6 weeks if something better comes along, taking the 35K in training costs with him unrecouped.
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