Search

Notices
Trans States Airlines Regional Airline

Latest Trans States VARS

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-15-2009 | 01:34 PM
  #21  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 483
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by BURflyer
A strike center will do you no good if it takes you over the cliff.... good luck. Other airlines will really appreciate your hard stand for a day and move right in the next to take over you ERJ flying... Just remember it's all about compromises and unfortunately management has all the leverage despite what that vars says. This is not flamebait, seriously trying to make a point. Let's not forget the past. It's very obvious that Hulas wants TSA to become Gojet.
I think the majority of the pilot group is willing to go over the cliff if it gets to that point. I agree that there has to be compromise but that doesn't mean that you do whatever management wants you to. It means they get some of the things they want and the pilots get some of the things the want. Neither side gets everything. There is, however, a limit to what the pilots will accept and management's offers do not come anywhere close to our limits.
Reply
Old 02-15-2009 | 03:09 PM
  #22  
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 781
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Copperhed51
I think the majority of the pilot group is willing to go over the cliff if it gets to that point. I agree that there has to be compromise but that doesn't mean that you do whatever management wants you to. It means they get some of the things they want and the pilots get some of the things the want. Neither side gets everything. There is, however, a limit to what the pilots will accept and management's offers do not come anywhere close to our limits.
Well I don't think so. It's not just a pilot group. It's people with lives and families they're not going to go down to prove a point to management. I have no doubt that this is not going to happen and eventually there's going to be an agreement. But with what's happening with negotiations and what Hulas is capable of doing, anything seems possible.
Reply
Old 02-15-2009 | 03:40 PM
  #23  
flyinaway411's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 307
Likes: 0
Thumbs down

and thank you BURFlyer, for making the shift to GJ that much easier for management!
Reply
Old 02-15-2009 | 07:07 PM
  #24  
250 or point 65's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 999
Likes: 0
Default

BURFLYER

And why wouldn't you want us to go over the cliff? That means more flying for you and your boys at the GJ!

Also, although the general consensus is that we don't deny GoJetters jumpseats, do not try to get on my plane when you jump to the other side (making it harder for us to get a good contract) just to take the recall to TSA and reap the benefits when and if everything turns around! It sickens me that you feign to support our cause. Just like I told a GJ captain who asked when I was getting furloughed...Don't pretend like you care!
Reply
Old 02-15-2009 | 08:27 PM
  #25  
CaptainCarl's Avatar
I'm a man of my word.
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,883
Likes: 0
From: Devil's Advocate
Default

Originally Posted by BURflyer
That's the dumbest thing ever. You have obviously never been furloughed or forced to seek unemployment help. There's a former Comair pilot right now flipping burgers at McDonalds that would really agree with you.... if he could afford an internet connection.
BURflyer: If no one stands up to the school bully, he keeps beating the crap out of kids and taking their lunch money. But if just one kid defies that bully, he may still get the crap kicked out of him or all the other kids might stand right beside that kid and tell the bully to take a very long walk off a very short pier. Mmm, kay?
Reply
Old 02-15-2009 | 08:51 PM
  #26  
250 or point 65's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 999
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by BURflyer
You have obviously never been furloughed or forced to seek unemployment help.
Quit it with this whole "You don't understand how hard it is to be me cause I got furloughed with my lifetime of experience" crapp!

As if you're the only one.

CaptainCarl is, I am, MANY of us are. Don't try to pretend that we don't know what its like. We've been to the unemployment offices, we've sat with ex-cons trying to get additional training from the government, we've filled out countless job applications. I refuse to advance my career on the backs of other pilots...REFUSE!
Reply
Old 02-15-2009 | 08:53 PM
  #27  
Foxcow's Avatar
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by BURflyer
You have obviously never been furloughed or forced to seek unemployment help. There's a former Comair pilot right now flipping burgers at McDonalds that would really agree with you.... if he could afford an internet connection.

You can't use that "I have to feed my family" crap either. I can think of a dozen jobs one can get that would pay them the same crappy $20,000 per year, work less hours, and they would be home every night. If g0jets was the only option, I would turn my ATP in and be done with it.
Reply
Old 02-16-2009 | 04:45 AM
  #28  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
Quit it with this whole "You don't understand how hard it is to be me cause I got furloughed with my lifetime of experience" crapp!

As if you're the only one.

CaptainCarl is, I am, MANY of us are. Don't try to pretend that we don't know what its like. We've been to the unemployment offices, we've sat with ex-cons trying to get additional training from the government, we've filled out countless job applications. I refuse to advance my career on the backs of other pilots...REFUSE!

a guy tried to sell me some drugs there-- i rationalized with the guy-- im unemployed, do you really think i have any money? Iditot.

using the whole family as an excuse is pretty sad for a job-- if they were than important - maybe you shouldnt be gone 15-20 nights a month-- f'n hippocrites.

skippy-- hold the line or burn the place down and get what you want, dont settle for the "we're to poor routine", Thats a classic lawyer routine-- all he does is delay---its just more money for down payments on newer 700's at geauxjet---- now thats really hippocritical.
Reply
Old 02-16-2009 | 07:14 AM
  #29  
CaptainCarl's Avatar
I'm a man of my word.
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,883
Likes: 0
From: Devil's Advocate
Default

If our MEC or Negotiating Committee is reading this, you guys have my full support.

Hold the line or burn it down.
Reply
Old 02-16-2009 | 10:37 AM
  #30  
Salukipilot4590's Avatar
Scary...Scary...
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,607
Likes: 11
From: Rollin' Down tha 405
Default

I really wish I could have stayed in STL so I could help out with the strike thing.

FC...if you need anything from me out here just PM or Facebook it up!

You all have my complete support and you're doing good work!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Copperhed51
Trans States Airlines
40
01-16-2009 02:16 AM
Foxcow
Trans States Airlines
223
11-14-2008 11:15 PM
CaptainCarl
Trans States Airlines
68
11-06-2008 03:29 PM
Atreyu
Trans States Airlines
67
10-23-2008 07:29 PM
LOW FUEL
Trans States Airlines
33
09-29-2008 04:02 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices