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JetJock16 02-18-2009 12:15 PM

SKW picks up Port of Moses Lake, WA starting
 
OTH, LMT to both PDX & SFO; and now SEA - MWH. It's not much but it helps and I still expect more to come.

Columbia Basin Herald Online Newspaper - Local News - Moses Lake, WA - Grant County : Air service to restart in Moses Lake

flyboyzz1 02-18-2009 01:47 PM

take it this is pro rate stuff?

ExperimentalAB 02-18-2009 02:25 PM

And subsidized by the people (apparently pledges by businesses mostly) to make sure SkyWest doesn't lose it's you-know-what during start-up...

thrustsetrj200 02-18-2009 05:20 PM

This is Horizon Air territory. I wonder how they feel about it. I guess I didn't realize Horizon ever stopped flying MWH-SEA.

ExperimentalAB 02-18-2009 05:34 PM

They don't have the equipment for it. I'm sure they don't want to spend the cash on empty Q400's flying in and out all day...

JetJock16 02-18-2009 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by thrustsetrj200 (Post 562289)
This is Horizon Air territory. I wonder how they feel about it. I guess I didn't realize Horizon ever stopped flying MWH-SEA.

They obviously don't care ($) seeing they dropped all their Q2's. Remember this, it was NWA & UAL territory before Horizon ever existed.

thrustsetrj200 02-18-2009 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 562304)
They obviously don't care seeing they dropped all there Q2's. Remember this, it was NWA & UAL territory before Horizon ever existed.

Ha ha..I guess I'm not old enough to remember that. Good for SKW for picking that one up. I'm sure Moses Hole isn't much of a booming market. I'm just a little jealous...it's my old stomping ground.

JetJock16 02-18-2009 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by thrustsetrj200 (Post 562433)
Ha ha..I guess I'm not old enough to remember that. Good for SKW for picking that one up. I'm sure Moses Hole isn't much of a booming market. I'm just a little jealous...it's my old stomping ground.

Should be fun and I love flying the PNW.

BTW, NWA's SEA/PDX and UAL’s NW flying dates all the way back to the 20's.

Seatownflyer 02-18-2009 08:28 PM

Horizon pulled out of North Bend as well. Right after they built a brand new fancy terminal. oops.

thrustsetrj200 02-18-2009 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 562449)
Should be fun and I love flying the PNW.

BTW, NWA's SEA/PDX and UAL’s NW flying dates all the way back to the 20's.

That's interesting. I remember airlines from all over the world coming into Moses. Not for scheduled service obviously...just for flight training and such. Especially JAL. Boeing has/had a big presence there as well. I guess I never realized NWA and UAL both had pax service. I just remember hopping on the Horizon Dash 8 over to Seattle. I honestly believe the flight over the Cascade Mountain range on a perfectly clear day is the most beautiful flight there is.

Dash8Pilot 02-18-2009 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by Seatownflyer (Post 562459)
Horizon pulled out of North Bend as well. Right after they built a brand new fancy terminal. oops.

North Bend got what they deserved on that one. At the same time as Horizon was switching to an aircraft that made the route marginal, the airport decides to jack up the rent AND give subsidies to lure in a competitor.

Seatownflyer 02-18-2009 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Dash8Pilot (Post 562474)
North Bend got what they deserved on that one. At the same time as Horizon was switching to an aircraft that made the route marginal, the airport decides to jack up the rent AND give subsidies to lure in a competitor.

Doh! That's no good.

JetJock16 02-19-2009 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by thrustsetrj200 (Post 562466)
That's interesting. I remember airlines from all over the world coming into Moses. Not for scheduled service obviously...just for flight training and such. Especially JAL. Boeing has/had a big presence there as well. I guess I never realized NWA and UAL both had pax service. I just remember hopping on the Horizon Dash 8 over to Seattle. I honestly believe the flight over the Cascade Mountain range on a perfectly clear day is the most beautiful flight there is.

If you reread you'll see that I was talking about the PNW territory/area.

Good day.

ImEbee 02-19-2009 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 562107)
And subsidized by the people (apparently pledges by businesses mostly) to make sure SkyWest doesn't lose it's you-know-what during start-up...

You know, I never understood why WA and OR don't get more EAS funding. Its too bad the communities have to pony up the money, because it seems to dry up pretty quick. Meanwhile Montana and Kansas have up to three communities that are within a 50 miles radius, a total population of at best 25,00 and service to TWO hubs! I would be great to see service to eastern WA and OR again. Good luck guys!

hoserpilot 02-19-2009 11:49 AM

Didn't JAL just pull its last 747 out of Moses Hole??? Think their training center is kaput. Also heard that the Colgan FO in the BUF accident was a Big Bend grad..RIP. Mwh tower is very accomodating. Whenever the freight dogs or Horizons metros would show up the tower would ask what weather they needed to land. By some miracle the visibility was always just enough, even though you couldn't see the plane parked next to you on the ramp.:)

frozenboxhauler 02-19-2009 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by thrustsetrj200 (Post 562289)
This is Horizon Air territory. I wonder how they feel about it. I guess I didn't realize Horizon ever stopped flying MWH-SEA.

No one else did either;)
fbh

thrustsetrj200 02-19-2009 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 562909)
Didn't JAL just pull its last 747 out of Moses Hole??? Think their training center is kaput. Also heard that the Colgan FO in the BUF accident was a Big Bend grad..RIP. Mwh tower is very accomodating. Whenever the freight dogs or Horizons metros would show up the tower would ask what weather they needed to land. By some miracle the visibility was always just enough, even though you couldn't see the plane parked next to you on the ramp.:)

I did hear that JAL pulled out of MWH. Sad news. I always loved watching the 747 do touch and goes there. Coolest thing to see. Yes, the FO on the Colgan flight did attend Big Bend.

Boomer 02-19-2009 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 562449)
BTW, NWA's SEA/PDX and UAL’s NW flying dates all the way back to the 20's.

Before that it was horse's route. NWA and UAL are horse scabs. :D

surreal1221 02-20-2009 10:12 AM

Well, at least one of the Skywest Inc. companies is seeing something these days. Good luck

JMT21 02-20-2009 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by ImEbee (Post 562901)
You know, I never understood why WA and OR don't get more EAS funding. Its too bad the communities have to pony up the money, because it seems to dry up pretty quick. Meanwhile Montana and Kansas have up to three communities that are within a 50 miles radius, a total population of at best 25,00 and service to TWO hubs! I would be great to see service to eastern WA and OR again. Good luck guys!

PSC-MSP service starts this spring (April I think) via Compass. It's good to see, but will it last a year? Time will tell I guess...

JetJock16 02-21-2009 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 563180)
Before that it was horse's route. NWA and UAL are horse scabs. :D

Hahahaaaa, touché.

ExperimentalAB 02-21-2009 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by JMT21 (Post 563877)
PSC-MSP service starts this spring (April I think) via Compass. It's good to see, but will it last a year? Time will tell I guess...

PSC-MSP on a Junglebus is not EAS...! ;)

JMT21 02-21-2009 07:36 PM

Agreed. But still, it's a step in the right direction.

sparerib11 02-21-2009 07:48 PM

Jal @ Mwh
 

Originally Posted by thrustsetrj200 (Post 562466)
That's interesting. I remember airlines from all over the world coming into Moses. Not for scheduled service obviously...just for flight training and such. Especially JAL. Boeing has/had a big presence there as well.

JAL is done at Grant County as of 2/18. We were in the pattern when the last -400 departed for Japan. Great airport to fly in/out of and great people in the tower and at approach.

Jayhawk 023 02-22-2009 07:19 PM

Hey, is SKW still going into PMD with the EMB or did we discontinue that? I went in there a bunch last summer in the jet....I actually really liked that overnight...good Mexican food nearby.

Seatownflyer 02-22-2009 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by Jayhawk 023 (Post 565094)
Hey, is SKW still going into PMD with the EMB or did we discontinue that? I went in there a bunch last summer in the jet....I actually really liked that overnight...good Mexican food nearby.

Discontinued.

BoredwLife 02-22-2009 09:22 PM

I understood that to be ALASKA EXPRESS Territory...

:rolleyes:

greggo 02-23-2009 11:04 AM

I did my JAL airplane training at Moses Lake. The Japanese instructors liked Moses Lake living, but the Japanese students...not so much.

We would have two 747's in the pattern at the same time. It was really cool when we did circle to land's at 300 to 400' AGL.

JetJock16 02-23-2009 02:38 PM

I just looked at Google Earth's photo of MWH and you can see what looks to be one of JAL's 747's on the ramp.

Is there anything to do in Moses Lake on overnights? No offense to anyone from MWH but it doesn’t really look like an exciting town.

JMT21 02-23-2009 09:00 PM

Moses Lake
 

Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 565597)
I just looked at Google Earth's photo of MWH and you can see what looks to be one of JAL's 747's on the ramp.

Is there anything to do in Moses Lake on overnights? No offense to anyone from MWH but it doesn’t really look like an exciting town.

Moses Lake contains a broke-ass water park and few good Mexican restaurants. It's less than 30 miles west of The Gorge, which could be worthwhile assuming you time it right and are looking to sin.

check6 03-20-2009 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by JMT21 (Post 563877)
PSC-MSP service starts this spring (April I think) via Compass. It's good to see, but will it last a year? Time will tell I guess...

I'd bet this route will do well. SKW already is flying the -900 into PSC.

Icelandair 03-20-2009 10:34 PM

And QX loses market share in yet another city. Great strategy from the top, "defend our markets and don't expand anywhere unless its an undiscovered destination". Guess that explains why they'd rather park the airplanes in the desert.

EmbraerFlyer 03-21-2009 12:58 AM

Behind the scenes, Alaska Air Group takes directions from the old NWA and the New Delta.

pdavies 03-23-2009 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by thrustsetrj200 (Post 562466)
That's interesting. I remember airlines from all over the world coming into Moses. Not for scheduled service obviously...just for flight training and such. Especially JAL. Boeing has/had a big presence there as well. I guess I never realized NWA and UAL both had pax service. I just remember hopping on the Horizon Dash 8 over to Seattle. I honestly believe the flight over the Cascade Mountain range on a perfectly clear day is the most beautiful flight there is.

I couldn't agree with you more!! I love jumping over to Seattle or Olympia in my father in laws Bonanza. It's so beautiful! Actually, JAL just pulled out of MWH. They finished their 40 contract and off they went. I had the opportunity to go to the closing ceremonies. Driving around in Moses isn't the same anymore without the big boy 74 flying around.


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