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gtechpilot 02-18-2009 12:50 PM

ASA Furlough Assistance passes
 
For those who helped lay the ground work for this, thank you!

While I consider this a small victory, it seems a bit pitiful how it worked out:

Of the 1,578 eligible voters, 354 cast a ballot. That equates to a 22.4 percent voter turnout. Those voting IN FAVOR of the assessment numbered 198. OPPOSING votes were tallied at 160. Among the 354 votes cast, the measure passed by a 54.80 percent to 45.20 percent margin.

Theonemarine 02-18-2009 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by gtechpilot (Post 562027)
For those who helped lay the ground work for this, thank you!

While I consider this a small victory, it seems a bit pitiful how it worked out:

Of the 1,578 eligible voters, 354 cast a ballot. That equates to a 22.4 percent voter turnout. Those voting IN FAVOR of the assessment numbered 198. OPPOSING votes were tallied at 160. Among the 354 votes cast, the measure passed by a 54.80 percent to 45.20 percent margin.

It failed at PSA....

Congrats on it though.

TristarJS30 02-18-2009 01:00 PM

Congrats to the 80 at ASA.

It wasn't even brought up to vote (or brought up at all as far as I know) at Comair for the 298...

cessnamann 02-18-2009 01:24 PM

Has anyone gotten thier COBRA packet in the mail yet? Thank you to all ASA pilots, this will be a huge help.

flyboyzz1 02-18-2009 01:46 PM

what was this for?

RamenNoodles 02-18-2009 03:03 PM

Great news! Glad this passed. I would have expected a higher voter turnout, but still good for the guys on the street. Best wishes to you all.

Wilco 02-18-2009 03:27 PM

I was glad to see it pass. I voted for it, but was very surprised at the low vote count. Insurance is a necessity for guys or gals with families, and also, karma baby!

EWRflyr 02-19-2009 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by gtechpilot (Post 562027)
For those who helped lay the ground work for this, thank you!

While I consider this a small victory, it seems a bit pitiful how it worked out:

Of the 1,578 eligible voters, 354 cast a ballot. That equates to a 22.4 percent voter turnout. Those voting IN FAVOR of the assessment numbered 198. OPPOSING votes were tallied at 160. Among the 354 votes cast, the measure passed by a 54.80 percent to 45.20 percent margin.

12.55% of the entire pilot group deciding something that involves money, their paychecks, and their furloughed brothers and sisters. Truly pathetic. At least the majority minority made the correct, moral choice.

Congratulations to those furloughed at ASA. Hopefully this will ease the burden somewhat during these financially uncertain times.

John Pennekamp 02-19-2009 07:12 AM

Try this on for size. A furloughee is bragging on the ALPA message board that he voted in favor even though he was told he wouldn't be eligible to vote.

Does it seem ethical that the furloughees got to vote on this (even though they were on inactive status before the vote closed)? Wouldn't it be nice is the 38 votes this thing passed by were furloughees voting themselves a check?

ML64711 02-19-2009 07:55 AM

I was wondering exactly why there was an extremely low voter turnout for this. Only thing that I could come up with was that the 22.4% were the ones who felt strongly to either side of the vote. Being one of the 80, it is really nice to know that there will be one less bill to handle in the interim.

JP- you have absoutely no basis to even suggest that the 38 other yes votes were made up by furloughed pilots voting before their inactive status, just because one pilot was "bragging" on the ALPA board.

The way the numbers worked out, i believe only 60ish pilots of the 80 were requesting any assistance on their COBRA. The monthly total was roughly a $15 contribution per pilot. This could be substantially less if and when the COBRA part of the stimulus package is put into place and ASA has to kick in 60% of the costs for 9 months or pilots find other interim jobs that offer medical insurance.

The fact that you would even be flaiming people and your fellow pilots over an amount that costs the same as a few trips to Mcdonalds or roughly 50 cents per day is disgusting and shows your true colors when backing your fellow pilots. Judging from your pathetic "its not my problem" attitude I hope you never end up on the street or in a bad medical situation like Eddie Cordle and needing to request the assistance of others. For 1st year pay, GA unemployment quoted me a whopping 183 per week for 16 weeks. How are you supposed to live and pay COBRA off that? But, I forgot, the Acey 80 are just a bunch of whiners that want to complain our way to being able to put food on our plates and have an insurance policy in our pockets. Disgustingly pathetic, isnt it JP?


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