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Slaphappy 05-08-2006 04:46 PM

ASA Getting screwed by Skyest
 
This just came down the pike.

SLC to close all 70's going to Skywest.

ATRs all going in August to be replaced by CRJ-900s (24 total)

Laxrox43 05-08-2006 04:55 PM

I know I am going to get shot in the foot for saying this (so I apologize to the ASA guys/gals)...but why is this such a bad thing?

Oportunity to move into jet equipment = good!

Having to move...not so good

Sorry if I sound ignorant...but to me this sounds like a good opportunity?!

Slaphappy 05-08-2006 05:17 PM

Yeah but they have to move from Salt Lake to /shudder Atlanta.

BoilerUP 05-08-2006 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Laxrox43
Oportunity to move into jet equipment = good!

A jet is really not that cool to fly, and besides, who really cares if the hot gas comes out the back or turns a big prop? A good payrate and the check clearing twice a month is all that really matters...

Besides, a 68 seat turboprop is *golden* in these days of $70+ fuel.

GreatView 05-08-2006 05:41 PM

Slaphappy....

Where do you get your information from? Nothing posted officially from SkyWest HQ or on ASAnet.....

Slaphappy 05-08-2006 06:31 PM

inflight SLC vp said it in the crew room. FL an SH in the crew bus. Dozens of fellow crews have told me.

Its the same kind of buzz a day before the Skywest deal went public

dojetdriver 05-08-2006 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP
A jet is really not that cool to fly, and besides, who really cares if the hot gas comes out the back or turns a big prop? A good payrate and the check clearing twice a month is all that really matters...

Besides, a 68 seat turboprop is *golden* in these days of $70+ fuel.

Let me take this one step further. The pay and check clearing twice a month is good. The PIC time is what REALLY matters, regardless of whether you get it in a prop or a jet.

otter 05-08-2006 09:25 PM

Pay cut
 
Unlike Comair, ASA pilots haven't had to take a pay cut..........Yet. It could be worse?

Punkpilot48 05-08-2006 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP
the hot gas comes out the back or turns a big prop?


Thats good but I pefer the "large unducted N1 fan" better :p

Blackhawk 05-09-2006 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by otter
Unlike Comair, ASA pilots haven't had to take a pay cut..........Yet. It could be worse?

Not so sure. Personnel who moved from Dalas got hosed... I know of one FO who closed on a house 2 weeks prior to the Dallas closing being announced (the president of ASA had just said we were in Dallas for the long term). He lost $30,000 on his house and was not nearly compensated for the actual cost of his move. He was typical. Now some of these people who took it in the shorts a few years ago on the Dallas move will take it again; I see some credit cards run up, some people getting over their heads, and some marriages disolving. Not in management, of course. We'll get the old shoulder shrug and "we're one big happy family" speech while they pocket their bonuses.

Blackhawk 05-09-2006 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by otter
Unlike Comair, ASA pilots haven't had to take a pay cut..........Yet. It could be worse?

Oh, and another thought. COMAIR pilots did not HAVE to take a pay cut. FAs chose not to.

supercell86 05-09-2006 02:40 PM

Yea but....but....jets are shineyer!!

(wheres the sarcasam button on this forum?)

In all seriousness, not only does the paycheck matter, but stability also. I'd rather make 25K for 7 years, than 45K for one year and be forloughed!! That's why I don't think I'd mind American Eagle...

JustAMushroom 05-11-2006 08:46 AM

Can you be more specific? All ASA 700's are going back to ATL? Or repaint and go to SkyWest?

The 24 900's were announced a while ago. What is new...the ATR's going away???

Thanks

JustAMushroom 05-12-2006 05:18 AM

Found the info. Thanks anyway. SkyWest says they want to keep the economies of scale within the hubs so SLC to stay SkyWest and ATL to stay ASA with aircraft flowing thru each hub but no mixed domiciles.

900's going tho ATL thru march of '07. "some" of ASA's current 700's in SLC to be flown by SkyWest is the word I've heard.

It's really too bad for the folks who moved to SLC and now may need to commute. On a positive note the company says they are working on a policy to allow for movement betweeen the two companies that is "fair and adhears to senority".


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