Comair Recall updates?
 

Hello fellow Comair pilots. I am on furlough no big shock there just wondering if anyone has herd some positive news? Just curious to see that when management lets the early retires actually leave if the will recall the 30 to 40 that have taken the early leave? I just got hired at great lakes havent signed the contrat yet. Just trying to get the news before I do. Stay well.

Good luck at Lakes...

IMO...its wait and see at this point...we all know the move to NE flying is going to be "interesting" to say the least...im hopeful recalls will be coming down the pipe soon...good luck to all!! I REALLY want my job back!

I have a feeling something has to happen. They can't (but probably will try to) run this summer losing 33 from voluntary buyouts and 20-30 who have (rumored) quit rather than commute to JFK. Add problems commuting and a few more people giving up after a month or two commuting it's going to be quite nasty for those who are forced into picking up the slack.

Good luck at lakes, I am with Tristar something got to give soon. Isn't the Mesa Vs Delta judgement due this month? It will be 90 days at the end of the month.

Spoke to a friend in scheduling, she said that attrition is averaging 1 per month. I think the rumor of 20-30 quitting because of the displacement is false.

I heard that number direct from a scheduler..but who knows.

Maybe it's true, I asked her directly about it and she didn't know if 20-30 quit or not. She just said they are losing about 1 per month and that they are severely short staffed.

Yea, regardless I can't imagine they won't recall..I don't think they're going to have a choice "creative scheduling" can only go so far.

Yes..OPTIMISM!!! I can't believe it either!

What everyone is forgetting is they are expecting a reduction in flying come Aug/Sept. Thats why they are so afraid to do anything (upgrade or recall). Prior to this summer flying we got they were about to furlough again.

So even if we only drop back to winter levels the early outs and rumored quits will only off set another furlough.

I hope Im wrong!


Having said that we are only 7 days into the month and I have over 20 hours already. Im in the middle of a 4 day worth another 20.

You're right. I believe, given the current staffing situation, that they would have recalled already. However, I think we are going to see a significant drop in block hours come the fall time frame that will result in the need for our current staffing levels. The summer will be interesting at below min staffing levels... but what does Delta expect, if they cant keep giving a consistent block hour schedule, do they just want us to seasonally recall and furlough? GMAFB.

LOL yea! if big daddy d had his way we would be seasonal, non benefited, part-time, ill use you when i need you employees

Here is the problem. The company needs to recall a few guys due to the rerun of the reallocation bid. However, the union is till fighting that the way the company ran that bid was a direct violation of the contract and that the entire bid should have been opened as a vacancy to all pilots or something like that. Who knows what will happen there.

Keep in mind. Comair hired near 300 guys for some 14 or 15 900's that we were suppose to get and never did. Hence 300 guys furloughed. So unless they bring more airplanes on property or there is a MASS exodus I don't see more than a handful of recalls happening.

Maybe she got 1 per month and 1 per day confused.... Either way I'm guessing that number will increase once the hellish commute to JFK begins.....

only 100 made it on property...the other 200 furloughs were already at comair before the announcement of the "big hiring wave".

Correct, I was there almost 8 months before they announced the 'big wave'. :rolleyes:

More than 100 were on property before the first 900s were even announced. That drives me crazy when people say all furloughes were there less than a year. One of our fearless union leaders talked to a couple of us one day and said something about us being on probation but they wanted to take care of us. I got off probation 6 months before I got furloughed.

I was 15 days off probation before I got furlough.

I was a year and two weeks off probation when i was furloughed... go figure.

I had the oh so wonderful second year pay for three months. I did like the "here's your paycheck... HAHA nevermind" stunt they did.

Schedulers do not know anything about attrition, It jsut isn't part of their job. Ask the Chief pilots office or the "planning" dept.

I hit 30 hours of credit last night...I got tagged with a MX check at 930pm last night at the end of day 6 on the road. I thought I was going to lose it when I saw my schedule...

2 months of being back on reserve and I can't drink enough on my days off to numb the pain.

I was 2 days shy of 3rd year pay when I was furloughed! Son of a .....

Another Comair "recall" updates thread? Seriously? Comair is not going to recall ANYONE this year! And schedulers down know squat about attrition!

siuaviation you are a smart guy! You moved on from Comair and aren't hung up like some other guys on this board. Comair will NEVER be what it used to be and even IF you would get recalled, yes you would have a job, etc., but your QOL will suck. Go to Great Lakes, yes the pay sucks, etc, but Lakes has a better chance of growing with planes, EAS routes, etc. than Comair ever will. Lakes is the only true commuter airline left in this industry!

And I bet you will fulfill your contract at Lakes before you even get a recall letter from Comair.

and if and when YOU get recalled...what are you planning on doing?

I love how so many of my fellow furloughed brethren are RIPPING Comair.

Let's make a deal guys..DON'T COME BACK IF YOU HATE/HATED IT SO MUCH.

It'll mean more of us who want the job will get a slot.

You're right, Comair isn't what it "used to be". Is that going to be your argument for EVERYTHING your entire career? It'll never go back to where it was, and it shouldn't. A regional airline's place in this business, is a stepping stone..no more..no less.

I plan on stepping back to Comair, and then stepping out as soon as i can.

By the time I will get recalled, I will be working somewhere else and don't have to go back to CMR anymore, because it will be a looong time before I get recalled, and I'm more than half up the recall list.

You are exactly one of those people who isn't looking at the big picture. The regionals aren't a stepping stone anymore! Where are you going to step? The majors? With more E170s/CRJ9s coming online, there won't be any major airline jobs left to go to. That so called 3-5 year regional airline job will no longer be a stepping stone anymore. It will be a career!

Anyway, I'm done reading 2 Comair Updates threads. Can't we merge this onto the other one?

That makes up for those of us that were on year two pay for three years - and the second two year 2s were less pay than the first year 2. :D

I heard we were all getting recalled tomorrow, but it could be a rumor. My buddy told me this today.

Good luck at Great Lakes... I have too many strings to go that route.

but lucinda lost 26 lbs....isnt that great!

Have you considered this - that's ten years you'll never get back.

Andy I agree with you, If you hate and bash Comair so Much go to Great Lakes or elsewhere ( Hope to move up a number or two). I will be more than glad to come back if they ever recall. Comair is not nearly perfect but the the crews were great. 13 month before I got furloughed and enjoy every moment of it. Good luckk everyone hope you find something to do in the meantime.

Just a couple questions kind of on this topic... I have nothing but time right now.

1) Let's just pretend all furloughees are not recalled within the five year contractual period... what do you think the company would do with these employees? Would they just dump them and say, "See ya" or would they extend an offer of employment as "their number" rolled up as a matter of courtesy?

2) How will training be handled once furloughees are recalled? There's a wide variety of experience out there among the folks that are furloughed. Some have a couple years experience and some barely finished IOE before being furloughed. Assuming many of these folks aren't able to fly presently, how will the training be approached once they are recalled?

Now that's funny! Ionwt' care whoyar

Hey, talking about how Comair is not what it used to be....so true!.

But the same applies to my ex-wife, and I'd still b*ng her, then leave in the morning.....:D

I wish they only furloughed for the expected 900's. If we were expected to get 14 new aircraft that's only about 150 pilots. They dug much deeper than the expected "new flying." I only bring this up since I'm next on deck for the F bomb! How much does this airline suck?!?!?!

Not only did we not get the 900s, but we are operating at a significantly different number of block hours.

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IMO...our day is approaching! Probably not tommorow but it is coming...wishful thinking most likely but its what keeps me going

spoilers thannks for the point of view! wanted to here some truth. Although lakes just stopped bidding for planes and lost 6 cities today, got to love this industry.