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seafeye 04-07-2009 06:21 PM

PSA Contract Negotiations
 
I think the Union and the Company should be locked up in a room for however long it takes to get a new contract signed. Breaks only to use the restrooms, 24 hrs straight. 6 hrs rest only after one section of the contract has been negotiated and signed. Then it's move to the next one. It's fair that the company and the union are under the same stress. No sleep till a section is completed. Each side gets one stress card that's good for 6 hrs rest. Time for our union dues to work for us.
Just need a punishment for either side if negotiations last longer than 2 weeks.

Av8rking 04-07-2009 06:25 PM

It might be nice if it actually worked that way!

Fugazi 04-07-2009 10:42 PM

Company has already made it clear they want to play some serious hard ball. With TK gone.. I doubt anyone really knows what to expect.

I'd like to help and do everything I can now that I live in CLT.

Lets try to be a little more pragmatic if you don't mind. Locking folks in rooms? No. It's 2009 (not 1949) for god's sake.

Mister Hat 04-07-2009 11:03 PM

You forgot feeding them rotten crew meals, and giving them diarrhea, and insomnia from eating so much junk food in the airports.

Oh, and when they go to sleep, their room card keys don't work and they have to keep going back down to the front desk to get a new one.

If they go into rest at the Dayton airport inn, they should go in at 1030pm, just in time for the 1130pm Fedex 727 departure to wake them up right after they finally get to sleep.

seafeye 04-08-2009 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by Fugazi (Post 592625)
Company has already made it clear they want to play some serious hard ball. With TK gone.. I doubt anyone really knows what to expect.

I'd like to help and do everything I can now that I live in CLT.

Lets try to be a little more pragmatic if you don't mind. Locking folks in rooms? No. It's 2009 (not 1949) for god's sake.

Right and we are still working under a RAILWAY LABOR ACT.
Lockem up!

deadstick35 04-08-2009 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Fugazi (Post 592625)
Company has already made it clear they want to play some serious hard ball.

Two can play that game.

Let's keep this public venue free of specifics, folks. MmmKay?

seafeye 04-08-2009 08:25 AM

Not that many will care but i have to go along with the Union and agree that Pilot Unity is the only way that we can improve the rapidly diminishing quality of life at PSA. So i have started this post to share LEGAL ways that we can all band together and fly the contract. Please feel free to add to this list of LEGAL things we all do but maybe shouldn't. The company isn't doing any of us favors...
We should not be doing the work of other Unionized Employees.
This means:
1) No loading of bags. (We all have seen people help with carry-ons to the Jet-way)
2) No crossing of seat belts
3) No doing the work of the Unionized Mechanics. (Filling out paperwork is their job).
4) When dispatch screws up we need to find a pay phone and speak to a supervisor.
5) No Cell phone use.
6) Reserves are considered Leg by Leg because we are not pay protected. So we are not included in the Legal to start Legal to finish crap.
7) Airplane breaks, we don't fly. (Not that this is new).

...

texaspilot76 04-09-2009 06:02 AM

Things are getting ugly. The company just recieved a ruling from the FAA thbat allows them to fly flight attendants for unlimited flight hours. No 30/7 etc. The company right away is taking advantage of this to overwork our already abused flight attendants. The flight attendant union filed suit the same day.

This is a dispicable action from management. We need to all stick together and stand by our flight attendants, and vice versa.

CaptKrunch 04-09-2009 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 593327)
Things are getting ugly. The company just recieved a ruling from the FAA thbat allows them to fly flight attendants for unlimited flight hours. No 30/7 etc. The company right away is taking advantage of this to overwork our already abused flight attendants. The flight attendant union filed suit the same day.

This is a dispicable action from management. We need to all stick together and stand by our flight attendants, and vice versa.

Didn't you read the E-mail. This is liberating the FA's from the confines of the FAA's regs. They are free to make more money now. I love how they spin it that way.

seafeye 04-09-2009 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by CaptKrunch (Post 593341)
Didn't you read the E-mail. This is liberating the FA's from the confines of the FAA's regs. They are free to make more money now. I love how they spin it that way.

I feel sorry for those that have been working hard this year flying 100hrs/month so they get december off. I guess those days are long gone. Can't understand why management can make such stupid decisions and think that it will be in the best interest of the company. If our Union made a decison like this it would be called a work action, and we would all be fined and thrown in jail. Management just gets a bonus. Hope the fatique calls go up 1000%.


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