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btwissel 04-08-2009 09:34 AM

Lightning strike on CRJ
 
i found this on a news aggregator website.

good job to the crew that got her down safely.

Gunga Galunga 04-08-2009 09:47 AM

someone can correct me if I am wrong, since I am out of the loop, but I believe those pictures are from the fire they had at the gate on 830AS in TLH last month.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...-fire-tlh.html

andy171773 04-08-2009 11:28 AM

Yea..lightning strikes do not look like that..that's most definitely a fire.

rickair7777 04-08-2009 11:30 AM

That was not a lightning strike. Rumor has it Mx left a wrench in the circuit breaker panel behind the captain. It shorted a bus bar and started a fire. The fire burned through an O2 line...instant blowtorch! Lucky it was on the ground.

1900luxuryliner 04-08-2009 12:21 PM

99.99...% of the time, lightning strikes are a complete non-event. Your average airliner is struck once per year, and specifically designed to handle it without any major airframe, avionics, etc. failures. It happened to me in the Beech. No big deal, and the only evidence were small scorch marks on a few of the prop blades, and a very, very tiny scorch mark and pin sized hole near the rear of the aircraft, near the tail cone, aft of the pressure vessel. Air transportation would be THE MOST dangerous form of travel if that is what your average lightning strike did to an aircraft (in the picture).

AviatorAl04 04-08-2009 01:05 PM

Im in class on the 900 right now and we were shown slides on that particular aircraft and it is an o2 line that burst and melted the l/h fwd fuse behind the garment closet. the o2 bott is located on the on the l/h side of fwd entry door. They were not flying. it was before they were off the ground.

Pontius Pilot 04-08-2009 04:52 PM

I've been in the Jumpseat of an MD-80 during a lightning strike.

It was a non-event. Just loud and a surprising. The captain used some very technical aviation terms that along the lines of "what the * was that?".

Maintenance checked the plane over on landing and found nothing.

jth029 04-09-2009 08:15 AM

They didn't even have pax on board yet. So other than being expensive, no big deal.

Gajre539 04-09-2009 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga (Post 592869)
someone can correct me if I am wrong, since I am out of the loop, but I believe those pictures are from the fire they had at the gate on 830AS in TLH last month.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...-fire-tlh.html

No, the pic linked in post #1 doesn't look anything like the ASA fire in TLH.

Here is the TLH pic - http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...8093749000.jpg

rickair7777 04-09-2009 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Gajre539 (Post 593411)
No, the pic linked in post #1 doesn't look anything like the ASA fire in TLH.

Here is the TLH pic - http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...8093749000.jpg

Your picture looks like it was taken after they cut some metal away for repair or investigation. Same airplane.

A lightning strike could not do that kind of damage to a metal airplane...if it did, it would have killed the CA and probably killed or disabled the FO too. That hole would be the equivalent a 100mm+ artillery round hitting an armored vehicle. The only picture available would that of a smoking hole in a cornfield.

andy171773 04-09-2009 09:00 AM

The holes above the window line are the same..that's the same airplane.

I rule in favor of the defendants, this is indeed a fire not a lightning strike.

I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

Gajre539 04-09-2009 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 593427)
Your picture looks like it was taken after they cut some metal away for repair or investigation. Same airplane.

Now that I look closer, I agree with you it looks like they took some metal or a panel off. The lightning strike pictures have "830" on the airplane, I'll go to our hanger and see if has the same number.

krisma 04-09-2009 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by AviatorAl04 (Post 592997)
Im in class on the 900 right now and we were shown slides on that particular aircraft and it is an o2 line that burst and melted the l/h fwd fuse behind the garment closet. the o2 bott is located on the on the l/h side of fwd entry door. They were not flying. it was before they were off the ground.


slight correction.... true the O2 bottle on the 900 is where you stated, but the 200 shown in the fire pictures has the bottle located in the avionics compartment.

Gajre539 04-09-2009 02:04 PM

I checked the plane a few minutes ago, it is N830AS with 830 on the front. It is the same airplane.

Boomer 04-09-2009 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 593427)
That hole would be the equivalent a 100mm+ artillery round hitting an armored vehicle.

Or a 12.7mm shell striking an aluminum-skinned aircraft.

elcid79 04-10-2009 10:29 AM

DEFINATLY NOT LIGHTNING. Lightning makes small pin sized holes in the aircraft not that crater.. Definatly a fire.

rickair7777 04-10-2009 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by krisma (Post 593534)
slight correction.... true the O2 bottle on the 900 is where you stated, but the 200 shown in the fire pictures has the bottle located in the avionics compartment.

The pipe for the jumpseater's mask goes behind that panel, I suspect that's where the blowtorch came from.

rickair7777 04-10-2009 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 593582)
Or a 12.7mm shell striking an aluminum-skinned aircraft.

50's don't contain HE.

Boomer 04-11-2009 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 594093)
50's don't contain HE.

I was thinking of the Russian stuff - my bad.

Exit wound maybe?

OnMyWay 04-11-2009 07:44 PM

Call it fate, luck or a blessing but it is a miracle that it did not happen in the air!

SayAgain 04-11-2009 09:21 PM

Lightning stike eh? Nice spin...

Vykus 04-28-2009 01:42 PM

There's a story on this over at FlightPod Television (Episode 003)

It was a fire at the gate.

Vykus

TPROP4ever 04-28-2009 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Gajre539 (Post 593411)
No, the pic linked in post #1 doesn't look anything like the ASA fire in TLH.

Here is the TLH pic - http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...8093749000.jpg

Your joking, you cant tell that is the same plane, look at the top portion of the hole on your pic and compare it to the other, same plane same damage....there is no way a lightning strike would create that damage pattern. Have you ever suffered a LS in flight?, I have and ill tell you I have the skid marks to prove it...:D, one very Loud bang, resulting in one captain using some very colorful language( ok the FO said some colorful things too ;)), and a tiny pin prick scortch mark on the tip of the wing...thats it

SmoothOnTop 04-28-2009 05:05 PM

This case - overhead panel fire.

As for lightning, stay away (at least 10...20 nm better) from those bumpy clouds, lest they reach out and touch you...


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