NWA Jump Seat policy for Mesaba
04-13-2009, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Glide
Hello All,
Just need an input on jump seat ‘Priority’ when boarding on NWA mainline flight. It just happened a few days ago at SFO when I, as a Mesaba First Officer, was trying to hitch a ride to MSP to report for flight duties.
I was first at the gate and the friendly gate agent had my form signed by the captain and asked me to wait till everyone is on board. I patiently waited as I normally do.
While the last few passengers were boarding, another Mesaba pilot, also a First Officer, showed up and asked for the jump seat. Plane was full and he was told that the only jump seat (B757) has been allotted (to me). He then demanded to know if I were junior/senior to him. His attitude didn’t bode well with the very polite Gate staff. They said it didn’t matter because both of us were ‘not’ main line pilots so it’s on ‘First Come First Service’ basis.
Apparently, the pilot wasn’t convinced and started lecturing the gate agents and said that if were senior to me – which none of us at that time knew if that was the case – he would go first. The gate agents politely disagreed with him. He then came to me and demanded to see my ID to ascertain who was senior. It seemed a bit odd to me that how he wanted to run the show and it was quite awkward as there were about 10 other non-revs standing near the gate and by this time were being ‘entertained’ by our not-so-friendly First Officer who was in a full ‘demand’ mode.
He had to the balls to tell me that if I get on the plane and I were junior to him, which I was, I’m breaking company policy for Jump Seating. I politely told him that I am not aware of NWA policy of ‘First Come First Service’ and I’d be happy to give up my seat to him if indeed that was the case. The gate agent told me that he can not let the other, now incessantly rude – pilot go as I showed up first.
Ok, to make it short, he didn’t get on the plane and I did. While being greeted by the friendly Flight Deck crew and settling down, the gate agent came in with final papers and told the captain about the mishap at the gate. Captain asked the name of that pilot.
Anyone knows what’s the proper procedure for the above scenario?
Just need an input on jump seat ‘Priority’ when boarding on NWA mainline flight. It just happened a few days ago at SFO when I, as a Mesaba First Officer, was trying to hitch a ride to MSP to report for flight duties.
I was first at the gate and the friendly gate agent had my form signed by the captain and asked me to wait till everyone is on board. I patiently waited as I normally do.
While the last few passengers were boarding, another Mesaba pilot, also a First Officer, showed up and asked for the jump seat. Plane was full and he was told that the only jump seat (B757) has been allotted (to me). He then demanded to know if I were junior/senior to him. His attitude didn’t bode well with the very polite Gate staff. They said it didn’t matter because both of us were ‘not’ main line pilots so it’s on ‘First Come First Service’ basis.
Apparently, the pilot wasn’t convinced and started lecturing the gate agents and said that if were senior to me – which none of us at that time knew if that was the case – he would go first. The gate agents politely disagreed with him. He then came to me and demanded to see my ID to ascertain who was senior. It seemed a bit odd to me that how he wanted to run the show and it was quite awkward as there were about 10 other non-revs standing near the gate and by this time were being ‘entertained’ by our not-so-friendly First Officer who was in a full ‘demand’ mode.
He had to the balls to tell me that if I get on the plane and I were junior to him, which I was, I’m breaking company policy for Jump Seating. I politely told him that I am not aware of NWA policy of ‘First Come First Service’ and I’d be happy to give up my seat to him if indeed that was the case. The gate agent told me that he can not let the other, now incessantly rude – pilot go as I showed up first.
Ok, to make it short, he didn’t get on the plane and I did. While being greeted by the friendly Flight Deck crew and settling down, the gate agent came in with final papers and told the captain about the mishap at the gate. Captain asked the name of that pilot.
Anyone knows what’s the proper procedure for the above scenario?
04-13-2009, 03:29 PM
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It is unfortunate that this other person acted this way. If the mainline captain follows through with his j/s coordinator, it could cause trouble for all of us.
No just for the idiot who caused the trouble..
No just for the idiot who caused the trouble..
04-13-2009, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JetBlast77
So to clear this up, what is the official priority on the following airlines?
NWA
Mesaba
Pinnacle
I use them quite a bit to commute, but never quite understood it. Is it first come first serve unless you work for the company? For instance, if I work for another carrier other than NWA or a NWA Airlink carrier, and I'm trying to jumpseat on Mesaba, does a Pinnacle or NWA guy bump me or is it first come first serve unless you work for Mesaba? Thanks.
NWA
Mesaba
Pinnacle
I use them quite a bit to commute, but never quite understood it. Is it first come first serve unless you work for the company? For instance, if I work for another carrier other than NWA or a NWA Airlink carrier, and I'm trying to jumpseat on Mesaba, does a Pinnacle or NWA guy bump me or is it first come first serve unless you work for Mesaba? Thanks.
04-13-2009, 05:40 PM
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Very glad to hear you kept cool and took the flight! I hope to fly with you and NOT with this jacka$$--pm me if he is on the Saab or one of the "9" guys . . .
04-13-2009, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WIFlyer
Very glad to hear you kept cool and took the flight! I hope to fly with you and NOT with this jacka$$--pm me if he is on the Saab or one of the "9" guys . . .
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