Pinnacle VLOA's for FO's?!?!?!?!
 

So, I logged into CrewTrac and saw this message about LOA's for FO's. Great, just great!!!:mad:

Not a shock. The mentioned they were heavy on pilots on the PNCL side and may have to offer LOA's

Whats wrong with that? Theres lots of guys willing to take it. It beats the alternatives...

Well I guess it's been a couple weeks since they tried to JA me for a highspeed. Now it will only happen every 3 weeks.

To whom it may concern: QUIT PICKING UP OPEN TIME

getting to the fo's was inevitable. Almost every dci carrier has either furloughed, or furloughing, or thinking about furloughing. We wont be any different. the only thing is we have been running so thin for so long that it is just now catching up to us. I am not saying we are going to furlough and i haven't even heard that as a rumor, but the slight downturn in hours is a sign. The drop in hours isnt much (i think maybe just 1000 since the beginning of the year) but in true pinnacle fashion they are going to try and squeeze out every dime they can. The thing to not fret about is that they havent just gone ahead and furloughed. The are looking for loa's so they dont have to do it. So they still think we will need the pilots in the not to distant future. They may not need them right now which is why they offer loa's, but they may need them in the not to distant future, which is why they haven't furloughed.

I hope they let us do it like the captains are. I want 2 weeks off every month. and that is what i will be putting in for. that will keep me current, keep my flight bennies, and give the company money for my benefit deductions.

Delta dropped 1500 hrs just for may and is threatening more (6000?) if no contract.

That is complete BS if we are going to lose 6000 hours its going to happen anyways

Delta wants to pull out so many 50 seaters it is crazy. We have felt the sting at comair and unfortunately I think you guys have the biggest fleet of 50's in the US. Does anyone know the details of your NWA contract?

True it beats the alternatives. However, we all know that Voluntary LOAs come just before the furloughs...if the furloughs are indeed to come.

Am I the only person that has noticed we're almost 5,000 marketing hours down year over year with the same amount of pilots?

I think we ARE overstaffed. You keep getting JAs, extensions, and drop refusals simple because that's how Pinnacle operates regardless of staffing levels.

Not sure where you're getting the 1500 or the 6000. The total marketing hour difference between April and May is 100 hours less.

Yeah let's not forget that 2-3 years ago with the same number of pilots, 95 hour lines seemed to be the norm. Now if you break 80 consider yourself lucky. So with the same number of pilots, 75 hours across the board, and no more days off even with fewer hours, the Jr manning/ext will continue.

I heard that were short fo's on the 900 side. With only 50 reserves for 64 hard lines, management is considering sending 20 more fo's to ATL.

Heard from prefbid guys today that system wide were losing 2k hours for May but Memphis is actually up in hours. Detroit flying is losing some hours. Also for June were projected to gain not lose hours. All subject to change of course with the normal DCI shuffle that other carriers have experienced for years.

any reduction in hours is a management thing. not a if we dont get a contract thing.

you are right. i heard from them also that the june hours are actually up from where we are now. so slight reduction next month of about 500 hours, with an increase back up beyond where we are at for june. overall we are about 3000hrs less since the beginning of the year. the bid pack for next month only shows a reduction of about 600 hours from this month

Found a better way for Uncle Phil to cut costs.......

TAKEOFF TUBE - Low Cost Airlines Parody

I also think we will be losing hours due to a reduction in aircraft because some will be getting painted.

LoL



My understanding is that we have lost 6000 hours on the "Airlink" hubs in June and July. I think that its a scare tactic. Anyone? :D

Sending more FOs would mean training them on the -900 first. That would at least a couple months to get organized. :confused: