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Are the 120's used for both United and Delta flying or just the United side?
Just curious? Any talk of replacing them recently?

The 120's are being flown on the United and Delta side still. They've been talking about replacing them for years, but don't plan on it anytime soon.

The current plan calls for the retirement of 12 (I think) Brasilias by the end of the year. Which is a one for one replacement with the 700's that are being delivered this year. So not a turboprop replacement but a 'fleet revitalization.' It will leave SKYW with 48ish Brasilias by the end of the year. Some in SLC for Delta the rest in the west coast United flying.

Details are 'approximate.'

According to KB, UAL is resigning all of our "F4D" 120's through 2011 with options through 2013. According to him we are currently operating 49 EMB 120's (including spares) with 59 on property (had 62 not to long ago). We will sale 10 and no more. The ones to go first are the oldest and those with long Mx histories. There will also be a large increase in block hours this summer. Remember that we had 70 lines in FAT last August and averaged 71-75 throughout the off peak season, mainly due to the addition of OTH and LMT coupled with an increase in block hours related to AE’s Saab’s and Horizons Q2’s being retired. Word from above is no more VLOA’s for 120 folks and we should be understaffed this summer on both the FO and CA side with lines pushing 90++.

Mgmnt noted that back at peak fuel we were losing money on every departure out of SLC and breaking even on the rest. Now the 120’s are making money hand over fist.

Also Mgmnt just inked pro-rate flying for 10 CR2's with UAL on routes that SKW thinks they can turn a very nice profit on with fuel as low as it is. Once again, straight from KB, our overstaffing issues are almost completely resolved thanks to our large increase in EMB flying, additions CRJ flying and RJ VLOA’s.

FWIW..................no press release seeing that it not a pickup in a/c (all 10 CR2’s were park SKW a/c). Also keep in mind that Klen is extremely tight lipped and almost everything said above can be found on SWOL.

There has been some talk of the Q coming onto the property.

Klen mentioned cost are way too high so no Q's any time soon. I wouldn't expect another TP on property before 2011 but the 120’s will need to be replaced, only with something in the 35-50 seat category seeing that's all most of our EMB markets can handle. Any Q4’s will have to be additional flying.

I expect an EMB-120 NG (35-40 seats) to be announced in 2010...................LOL!

Is SKW the last 121 airline to operate EMB-120s in the U.S.?

No, Great Lakes has a few.

Great Lakes operates the Burito Bomber too!!

I thought gulfstream had some as well, I don't know if they got rid of theirs. I know I've seen a couple of cargo operators flying them around as well.

Those must be the one Lakes is perpetually rumoured to get. They should fit right in with the ones we currently have...

I'll miss most of them. 217SW comes out of the fleet at the end of May; our average BOW is between 17550 and 17850. 217SW is 17240 and she's a climber with her size B’s. LOL!

Although she does have the old, small overhead bins...............

Is SLC the only base for Delta flying using the 120, or are there some west coast bases?

SLC pretty much is the Western DAL base, and the only one flying the Bro...

I'm suprised Delta doesn't have you guys do the same coastal work like UAL. At least into LAX.

17240??!! DANG. our lightest is 17552 (small bins too). Does it have a galley? Rear mounted lav? All of ours have the forward lav and forward galley. Just curious.

Joe

217SW is a forward lav and galley.

The UAX contract used to forbid doing any flying for another carrier out of a UAL hub (ie LAX/SFO). They got that changed over a year ago, but with fuel and the economy, DAL removed XJET from LAX and never replaced them. Maybe someday...

Eagle does SBA, FAT, and SAN for Delta out of LAX.

Uh..what?

Really?

I had no idea Eagle did any flying for Daddy D...wow

Yep, Forward LAV and Galley....................FIS equipped.

They don't. They do codeshare. A bus takes you from T-5 to the Eagle's nest.

That would be good for who ever gets it. The flying out there can't be beat. But if it ever happens, I doubt it will be on the scale that it was.

XJT's presence out there was nothing more than XJT being at the right place and right time with airframes needing to fly, and DAL needing a placeholder on those gates. A placeholder that they were able to get a rock bottom/dirt cheap price.

Eagle also codeshares with NW, AS, and CO.

Yes, but you're not flying "for" DAL, NWA, AS or CO. AMR is just allowing them to sell "through" tickets on American flights. There is a slight difference.

No, but they are the last Major airline to use them. They are paid for and fuel efficient. I don't see them being replaced until the economy starts moving again.

Is it true that the E120 is type certified for single-pilot operations?

No, it requires 2. The capt cannot reach the alternate gear extension handle from the left seat.

I think I can reach it. Sure, that's the one.

Last time I tried to reach for the FF gear bar my FO slapped me. She then said I had to buy her dinner first. :eek:

Because she can't afford it.