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seafeye 05-20-2009 06:41 PM

Roger Cohen's Lies
 
:eek:Trying to put together a list of lies that Roger Cohen has said. The last one i remember is that he said "All regional pilots hold Airline Transport Pilot Licenses", But can't find the newspaper article.
Can you find a lie and back it up with a link?

thrustsetrj200 05-20-2009 08:22 PM

This guy is a D-Bag. He's definitely not on our side.

B00sted 05-20-2009 08:26 PM

He's a real piece of work. He reminds me of JO. Scumbags

tpersuit 05-20-2009 09:02 PM

Guys settle down. He's the President of the Regional Airline Association. It's like a union for management. Who do you think he is representing here?

HSLD 05-20-2009 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 614262)
Guys settle down. He's the President of the Regional Airline Association. It's like a union for management. Who do you think he is representing here?

Exactly..... hellloooo?

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152SIC 05-21-2009 08:19 AM

Buffalo crash has FAA eyeing pilot training methods -- Newsday.com

seafeye 05-21-2009 08:29 AM

Thanks...


Roger Cohen, president of the Regional Airline Association, an advocacy group based in Washington, said that while individual airlines' training curriculum may differ slightly, all meet or exceed the FAA requirements for pilot training.

All regional airlines' pilots hold the Air Transport Pilot license, "the PhD of pilot licenses," Cohen said.

captjns 05-21-2009 08:30 AM

Nothing new here. Any time there is an accident which involves loss of life, the FAA reviews the airlines' training department.

N118NW 05-21-2009 08:47 AM

Another thing that Cohen stated was that Pilot pay does not effect the safety of them flying.. which I beg to differ. Low-paid pilots with financial obligations generally worry on how they're going to be able to meet all of their responsibilities, what better time to do it than to think about it when you're at FL360 on a 2 hour flight? If you're not concentrating on flying, then you're not flying safe. It's part of the I.M.S.A.F.E. checklist that was drilled into our heads during flight school.

rickair7777 05-21-2009 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by N118NW (Post 614468)
Another thing that Cohen stated was that Pilot pay does not effect the safety of them flying.. which I beg to differ. Low-paid pilots with financial obligations generally worry on how they're going to be able to meet all of their responsibilities, what better time to do it than to think about it when you're at FL360 on a 2 hour flight? If you're not concentrating on flying, then you're not flying safe. It's part of the I.M.S.A.F.E. checklist that was drilled into our heads during flight school.

No doubt. They also spend their days off pursuing outside jobs/businesses...you would be foolish not to.

Tinpusher007 05-21-2009 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 614457)
Thanks...


Roger Cohen, president of the Regional Airline Association, an advocacy group based in Washington, said that while individual airlines' training curriculum may differ slightly, all meet or exceed the FAA requirements for pilot training.

All regional airlines' pilots hold the Air Transport Pilot license, "the PhD of pilot licenses," Cohen said.

I could be reading too deeply into this, but it could possibly be the incessant misuse of the word pilot (captain) vs. first officer (co-pilot).

iPilot 05-21-2009 10:50 AM

While nobody would chose to be unsafe or unprofessional just because they aren't paid much, there is still a connection. A pilot who is underpaid is generally going to be more stressed at home and has a higher chance of fatigue. If you're forced to live in a crashpad or hooptie apartment with loud neighbors, you'll naturally not be at your best at work. Add to that the lower nutrition, quality of life, high debt, and any number of other side effects to not getting paid sufficiently, and you get a lower quality pilot.

People may not desire to be that way but to just dismiss that pay has nothing to do with the quality of the pilot is a short sighted view at best.

And as for the pilots not ironing their shirts or generally being unconcerned with "professionalism," its hard to be one when your company treats you like day labor. At some point it gets easy to stop caring when it seems everyone else at the company has stopped a long time ago.

seafeye 05-21-2009 10:58 AM

I am trying to keep this on topic. It would be nice to put together an article about the lies of the RAA and Regional Airlines. While people have their ears open it is a good time to get our thoughts heard.

As for pilots being perfect? Were not. Sometime in your career you might get lucky and have a near perfect flight. Maybe about the time you are phyically fit, current, well rested and emotionally stable. Then it's all downhill. Pilots will not retire at 65 and be at their best. Only a short time in our career will we be flying close to 100%. Regional airlines schedules and pay keep us from being 100%. Nothing to do with being professional, we just don't have the tools to work at our best. And that includes $$$

Centerline34 05-21-2009 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by N118NW (Post 614468)
Another thing that Cohen stated was that Pilot pay does not effect the safety of them flying.. which I beg to differ. Low-paid pilots with financial obligations generally worry on how they're going to be able to meet all of their responsibilities, what better time to do it than to think about it when you're at FL360 on a 2 hour flight? If you're not concentrating on flying, then you're not flying safe. It's part of the I.M.S.A.F.E. checklist that was drilled into our heads during flight school.

Exactly. If you are so much preocupied about making it financially to the end of the month or if your pay does not allow you to have "reasonable" housing close to home base and are exhausted by the commutes, surely safety is affected.


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