Comair Unions Pushing for DL to reconsider
05-26-2009, 10:13 AM
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Comair Unions Pushing for DL to reconsider
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Unions criticize Comair on flight benefits
Cincinnati Enquirer
May 22, 2009
Warning of potential negative impacts to the "Delta brand" and the operational efficiency at Comair, the airline's three main unions Friday combined forces to try to push the company and its corporate parent Delta Air Lines to reverse a decision to reduce flight benefits at the locally-based regional carrier.
The new "informational campaign" will include an effort to get union members from the pilots, the flight attendants and the mechanics, as well as non-union employees and workers at all of Delta's wholly-owned subsidiaries to write letters to top brass at Atlanta-based Delta to complain about the moves.
Unions criticize Comair on flight benefits | Cincinnati Enquirer | Cincinnati.Com
Oh this has to be the best comment made by managment:
Um let's ask Freedom how that worked out for them!
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Unions criticize Comair on flight benefits
Cincinnati Enquirer
May 22, 2009
Warning of potential negative impacts to the "Delta brand" and the operational efficiency at Comair, the airline's three main unions Friday combined forces to try to push the company and its corporate parent Delta Air Lines to reverse a decision to reduce flight benefits at the locally-based regional carrier.
The new "informational campaign" will include an effort to get union members from the pilots, the flight attendants and the mechanics, as well as non-union employees and workers at all of Delta's wholly-owned subsidiaries to write letters to top brass at Atlanta-based Delta to complain about the moves.
Oh this has to be the best comment made by managment:
As for the benefits change, "we don't expect an impact on our commuters' ability to report for duty," Pugh said, citing the fact that the new Comair policy will be similar to that of the airline that previously served JFK for Delta.
05-26-2009, 01:26 PM
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Warning of potential negative impacts to the "Delta brand" and the operational efficiency at Comair, the airline's three main unions Friday combined forces to try to push the company and its corporate parent Delta Air Lines to reverse a decision to reduce flight benefits at the locally-based regional carrier.
What 'brand' impacts and operational efficiency impacts are they implying?
What 'brand' impacts and operational efficiency impacts are they implying?
05-26-2009, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
Warning of potential negative impacts to the "Delta brand" and the operational efficiency at Comair, the airline's three main unions Friday combined forces to try to push the company and its corporate parent Delta Air Lines to reverse a decision to reduce flight benefits at the locally-based regional carrier.
What 'brand' impacts and operational efficiency impacts are they implying?
What 'brand' impacts and operational efficiency impacts are they implying?
The fact that they just displaced over 400 crew member from CVG to JFK. Over 50% of those crew member have mailing addresses in the CVG area and will all be commuting from there.
Active Comair Employees now travel at a lower priority than retired delta employees and there parents. Employees unable to get to work because some delta rampers mom is going to see the big apple got on the plane before they did.
Causing more crew members to use the commuter clause or call in sick. Which forces comair to either cnx flights or call back furloughs. Causeing delta increased operations cost.
05-26-2009, 02:23 PM
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The problem with getting Compass and Mesaba on board with this campaign is that our pass benefits actually got BETTER with the new program. We always boarded AFTER mainline and their dependents. So, it'll be hard for CP and XJ employees to complain about what we're getting.
Having said that, it still doesn't make it right. IMO the best thing they could have done was make it DOH for ALL active employees regardless of mainline, wholly owned or contract. ALL active employees would board before all retirees, parents, dependents, buddies, RTC, etc. based on pure seniority. That would the most fair way.
At least Comair doesn't have it as bad as Pinnacle. Now THOSE are the folks who really have something to complain about.
Having said that, it still doesn't make it right. IMO the best thing they could have done was make it DOH for ALL active employees regardless of mainline, wholly owned or contract. ALL active employees would board before all retirees, parents, dependents, buddies, RTC, etc. based on pure seniority. That would the most fair way.
At least Comair doesn't have it as bad as Pinnacle. Now THOSE are the folks who really have something to complain about.
05-26-2009, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bored
The problem with getting Compass and Mesaba on board with this campaign is that our pass benefits actually got BETTER with the new program. We always boarded AFTER mainline and their dependents. So, it'll be hard for CP and XJ employees to complain about what we're getting.
05-26-2009, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Colnago
I wasn't sure about it when I read that side-by-side document. So are we (XJ) boarding based on DOH along with mainline as well, then? (i.e. NW ramper hired on 5/09 has lower priority than XJ FA hired on 6/08?)
On Comair, Compass, and Mesaba flights, It's all DOH between mainline and the w/o employees as S3C and you can on;y use you S2 passes on Comair, Comapass and Mesaba flights. Contract carriers are S3C
On contract carriers (excluding ASA and SkyWest), they board S3 with mainline per DOH. Wholly owned are next then ASA and SkyWest are last before buddy passes. On SkyWest and ASA, they board before mainline and then everyone else follows.
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05-26-2009, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bored
The problem with getting Compass and Mesaba on board with this campaign is that our pass benefits actually got BETTER with the new program. We always boarded AFTER mainline and their dependents. So, it'll be hard for CP and XJ employees to complain about what we're getting.
Having said that, it still doesn't make it right. IMO the best thing they could have done was make it DOH for ALL active employees regardless of mainline, wholly owned or contract. ALL active employees would board before all retirees, parents, dependents, buddies, RTC, etc. based on pure seniority. That would the most fair way.
At least Comair doesn't have it as bad as Pinnacle. Now THOSE are the folks who really have something to complain about.
Having said that, it still doesn't make it right. IMO the best thing they could have done was make it DOH for ALL active employees regardless of mainline, wholly owned or contract. ALL active employees would board before all retirees, parents, dependents, buddies, RTC, etc. based on pure seniority. That would the most fair way.
At least Comair doesn't have it as bad as Pinnacle. Now THOSE are the folks who really have something to complain about.
05-26-2009, 04:04 PM
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You get what you get and like it, IMHO. I'm sick and tired of hearing mainline people ***** about how bad their commute has gotten since the mainline aircraft have been replaced with RJs. I realize that's due to management action and not at all your fault; however, mainline employees, their spouses, dependants, and parents should have priority on ALL former mainline routes, regardless of who flies the jet. Same goes for the jumpseat, now that I think about it.
Just because the bottom half of your seniority list has reaped the benefits of our downsizing doesn't mean you should enjoy enhanced pass travel. Again, just my opinion.... and I know my opinion will be unpopular.
Fly the NWA/DAL code? Then NWA & DAL employees should be first on your nonrev list. End of story.
Just because the bottom half of your seniority list has reaped the benefits of our downsizing doesn't mean you should enjoy enhanced pass travel. Again, just my opinion.... and I know my opinion will be unpopular.
Fly the NWA/DAL code? Then NWA & DAL employees should be first on your nonrev list. End of story.
05-26-2009, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
You get what you get and like it, IMHO. I'm sick and tired of hearing mainline people ***** about how bad their commute has gotten since the mainline aircraft have been replaced with RJs. I realize that's due to management action and not at all your fault; however, mainline employees, their spouses, dependants, and parents should have priority on ALL former mainline routes, regardless of who flies the jet. Same goes for the jumpseat, now that I think about it.
Just because the bottom half of your seniority list has reaped the benefits of our downsizing doesn't mean you should enjoy enhanced pass travel. Again, just my opinion.... and I know my opinion will be unpopular.
Fly the NWA/DAL code? Then NWA & DAL employees should be first on your nonrev list. End of story.
Just because the bottom half of your seniority list has reaped the benefits of our downsizing doesn't mean you should enjoy enhanced pass travel. Again, just my opinion.... and I know my opinion will be unpopular.
Fly the NWA/DAL code? Then NWA & DAL employees should be first on your nonrev list. End of story.
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