Fact about 100 Seat A/C's at Regionals
05-26-2009, 01:42 PM
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Fact about 100 Seat A/C's at Regionals
It was only up until a few years ago that Air Wisconsin was flying 100 seat BAe-146's for United
Granted Captains were making 139$ an hour. But you ask anyone at this Company who was around to fly the 146 and they will tell you that it was the best days of their lives.
Maybe....juuuuuusssssttttt maybe RAH can negotiate a decent payscale for the 190....hey Alaska just got a 20% raise.....maybe this is a good thing.
I know im being foolishly optimistic....but hell....everything is so freaking miserable right now...it would be nice to see a glimmer of hope...then maybe one day I can justify how much money I spent on my education to get into this industry
Granted Captains were making 139$ an hour. But you ask anyone at this Company who was around to fly the 146 and they will tell you that it was the best days of their lives.
Maybe....juuuuuusssssttttt maybe RAH can negotiate a decent payscale for the 190....hey Alaska just got a 20% raise.....maybe this is a good thing.
I know im being foolishly optimistic....but hell....everything is so freaking miserable right now...it would be nice to see a glimmer of hope...then maybe one day I can justify how much money I spent on my education to get into this industry
05-26-2009, 01:50 PM
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No matter what rates Republic pilots negotiate, they are still nothing more than outsourced jobs of Midwest pilots! Therefore the anticipation for growth, stability, and long term opportunity has been shipwrecked within this industry.
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05-26-2009, 03:16 PM
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I think folks need to keep a couple of things in mind at all times in this airline business...
One, we are employees, not board members. Those of us from the real legacy carriers...the ones no longer around...know a little about that.
Two...at some point in your career, you will either be on the inside looking out...or the outside looking in. Be prepared to discover just how far your altruistic ideals go when tested in the crucible of reality.
I think you will find that unionism is the finest in human idealism and the worst in human nature.
One, we are employees, not board members. Those of us from the real legacy carriers...the ones no longer around...know a little about that.
Two...at some point in your career, you will either be on the inside looking out...or the outside looking in. Be prepared to discover just how far your altruistic ideals go when tested in the crucible of reality.
I think you will find that unionism is the finest in human idealism and the worst in human nature.
05-26-2009, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Onfinal
Therefore the anticipation for growth, stability, and long term opportunity has been shipwrecked within this industry.
As far as Air Wisconsin goes...
The August 2005 captain pay rates for the B146 from the 2001 ARW CBA represent about a 10% increase from the current year RAH 99 seat rates...yet still about 8% below current JetBlue E190 rates. Additionally, the top rate in the 2001 CBA for the B146 was for 2005 after 20 years of longevity...and it was $135.65. The top rate before the concessionary CBA went into effect in 2008 was $124.82, also for a 20 year captain.
I think I speak for everyone when I say I hope that Republic pilots can match the ARW 2001 CBA payrates +/- a couple percent for the E175 and get at or better than JetBlue for the E190.
05-26-2009, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by shackone
I think folks need to keep a couple of things in mind at all times in this airline business...
One, we are employees, not board members. Those of us from the real legacy carriers...the ones no longer around...know a little about that.
Two...at some point in your career, you will either be on the inside looking out...or the outside looking in. Be prepared to discover just how far your altruistic ideals go when tested in the crucible of reality.
I think you will find that unionism is the finest in human idealism and the worst in human nature.
One, we are employees, not board members. Those of us from the real legacy carriers...the ones no longer around...know a little about that.
Two...at some point in your career, you will either be on the inside looking out...or the outside looking in. Be prepared to discover just how far your altruistic ideals go when tested in the crucible of reality.
I think you will find that unionism is the finest in human idealism and the worst in human nature.
05-26-2009, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy8784
It was only up until a few years ago that Air Wisconsin was flying 100 seat BAe-146's for United
Granted Captains were making 139$ an hour. But you ask anyone at this Company who was around to fly the 146 and they will tell you that it was the best days of their lives.
Maybe....juuuuuusssssttttt maybe RAH can negotiate a decent payscale for the 190....hey Alaska just got a 20% raise.....maybe this is a good thing.
I know im being foolishly optimistic....but hell....everything is so freaking miserable right now...it would be nice to see a glimmer of hope...then maybe one day I can justify how much money I spent on my education to get into this industry
Granted Captains were making 139$ an hour. But you ask anyone at this Company who was around to fly the 146 and they will tell you that it was the best days of their lives.
Maybe....juuuuuusssssttttt maybe RAH can negotiate a decent payscale for the 190....hey Alaska just got a 20% raise.....maybe this is a good thing.
I know im being foolishly optimistic....but hell....everything is so freaking miserable right now...it would be nice to see a glimmer of hope...then maybe one day I can justify how much money I spent on my education to get into this industry
05-26-2009, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Onfinal
No matter what rates Republic pilots negotiate, they are still nothing more than outsourced jobs of Midwest pilots! Therefore the anticipation for growth, stability, and long term opportunity has been shipwrecked within this industry.
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Who gives a **** if they are "midwest" jobs??? If RAH pilot's are paid well for them, then that's all that matters...
05-26-2009, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gmcd05
Who gives a **** if they are "midwest" jobs??? If RAH pilot's are paid well for them, then that's all that matters...
You are a well paid Midwest pilot flying a 717.
You lose your job, and are now on the street.
A Replacement airlines pilot has just taken your old job, for a lot less money. (because I HIGHLY doubt they will negotiate proper pay.)
How do you feel?
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