Professionalism VS Its A Job
 

Ive seen it discussed in countless threads.

So lets just get to the endgame and vote on it.

No personal attacks. This is just to see where we all stand on the issue.

Poll is flawed.

I value having my job...but if someone wants to be treated like a professional and compensated like a professional, they must act, dress, and do their job like a professional. This means wearing the uniform properly, remembering you're in a service industry and asking questions when asked by passengers, watching one's language or actions while in uniform, and generally...well, acting like you have a shred of dignity or respect for the responsibilities of the job or the history of the profession.

Anybody who will do their job any more safely or professionally based upon a bigger number on their W2 doesn't value either their professionalism OR their job.

Ive seen enough threads flame on about being on one side or the other. Its merely picking a side of the fence about what a flying job means to oneself.

BTW, my first wife was tarded. Shes a pilot now.

She was a what?

I think he meant she had hot sticky black stuff poured over her. Usually that is followed by the application of feathers.

Actually, this poll is flawed. I'd venture a guess that most of the people on this site have a job. So, therefore, the answers would be weighted toward professionalism.

Its actually in reference to BoilerUPs avatar.

Its from a movie called Idiocracy.
Go watch it or just look at the clips on a certain tube of you.

Split down the middle if you look at this:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...urloughed.html

I agree... this poll is flawed. What does being happy to have a job have to do with being a professional? I'm a professional pilot AND I'm happy to have a job.

The time value of money is what's important here. The more you make when you're younger the more you can enjoy life if you make your money work for you. Going through your best years unemployed will make your latter years unbearable financially. I'm 25 and I've already saved up most of my retirement money...hopefully I don't get a wife that takes it all....

Please tell me this is hyperbole...

I'm your age and don't have anywhere NEAR "most" of my retirement money saved up...hell even $100k today at an annual return of 5% only leaves you with $721k after 40 years of growth. Not growth to sneeze at for sure, and TVM does reward people who get a nest egg started early...but you and I are going to need MILLIONS in order to retire in 40 years.

In this buisness you won't get one that takes it all...you'll get about three:p.

Aside from that I agree w/BoilerUP, TVM is very important to put whatever you can away as early as possible. Even though my employer has no retirement plan, doesn't stop me from pulling 5% away each week and putting it in private retirement funds.

According to Wiki...

"In western nations, such as the United States, the term commonly describes highly educated, mostly salaried workers, who enjoy considerable work autonomy, economic security, a comfortable salary, and are commonly engaged in creative and intellectually challenging work.Less technically, it may also refer to a person having impressive competence in a particular activity."

I suppose it all rests on whether or not airline pilots think those qualifiers apply to them.

huh?

I mean, I see your point but should professionalism change with the pay gap between 16k/year fo's and 200k/year capts?.

If you're a pilot who's making enough to live on your own with a car payment and eat well, I would say thats atleast enough to act like a professional.

Yes it is hyperbole, I'm basing it on my past and present performance as an investor vs. targets I've set for myself at certain points in my life. Although, the government is making it very difficult to plan ahead. I've been saving since 7th grade.

No, it shouldn't.

One should not base how professional they act, dress, or perform their job duties based on their gross pay. If one DOES try to justify their actions (or lack thereof) by referring to their salary, that in itself reflects unprofessional behavior.

After all, its not like the compensation for flying an RJ was or is a mystery...

I agree, look how professional Manny Ramirez is, look at his salary ;)