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Flex81 06-08-2009 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Confused (Post 621643)
Not a cool comment in any way shape or form.

Because he is a furlough from a connection carrier you assume he has low time.

How about guys at ASA i work with that are 25 years plus military, or former corporate or whatever.

That was pretty low what you said. Are you in a fight with anyone low time or what?

I said "many" got hired with less than 1000TT. For the record I do feel bad for those with a lot of experience that got the axe. There are some out there with just plain bad luck and it sucks! I am just tired of so many of these 250 hour wonders who now have 500 jet and think they are entitled to some airline job. They were lucky to get the 500 jet instead of 500 seminole. That was the point I was making.

Copperhed51 06-08-2009 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Flex81 (Post 624839)
I said "many" got hired with less than 1000TT. For the record I do feel bad for those with a lot of experience that got the axe. There are some out there with just plain bad luck and it sucks! I am just tired of so many of these 250 hour wonders who now have 500 jet and think they are entitled to some airline job. They were lucky to get the 500 jet instead of 500 seminole. That was the point I was making.

I have been hired at two 121 carriers, the first at 420TT and the second at around 650TT. I've never felt entitled to the jobs but that didn't stop me from applying. Sure I got the first job when the regionals were hiring almost anybody with commercial min's but when I was hired at my current job, they had a huge stack of applications. I got lucky but I also studied hard and don't feel like I didn't earn any of this. I won't apologize for my career path. Oh, and I'm not going to stop complaining about how little I make and how much I do. You know it's bad when the part time station agents at your airline are making way more than you are and are home every night and work way less hours. Even if I wanted to give you my job, I'd have to pay around $8,000 of the training contract anyway so that's not happening.

CaptainTeezy 06-08-2009 10:37 AM

If you didnt instruct/91 your way to 135 or ATP mins...you shouldnt be at an airline. Sorry to those of you that are furloughed who actually took the time to learn something at the lower levels.

*If you dont have a job life sucks.

*If you have a job, you are probably being exploited in the name of cutting cost, and you probably have no quality of life.

***Bottom Line: Life sucks for everyone right now.

Flex81 06-08-2009 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Copperhed51 (Post 624849)
I have been hired at two 121 carriers, the first at 420TT and the second at around 650TT. I've never felt entitled to the jobs but that didn't stop me from applying. Sure I got the first job when the regionals were hiring almost anybody with commercial min's but when I was hired at my current job, they had a huge stack of applications. I got lucky but I also studied hard and don't feel like I didn't earn any of this. I won't apologize for my career path. Oh, and I'm not going to stop complaining about how little I make and how much I do. You know it's bad when the part time station agents at your airline are making way more than you are and are home every night and work way less hours. Even if I wanted to give you my job, I'd have to pay around $8,000 of the training contract anyway so that's not happening.

First of all I don't want your job... I have one already. Second: I was speaking mainly to those complaining of being furloughed when they got hired with a wet commercial multi. They should be saying "I was fortunate to get some good time in a crj as opposed to a seneca". They will have an advantage over those who missed the hiring boom and have been flight instructing for this whole time. Third: I am not saying you shouldn't complain. The original post was directed toward people like you. I think you have a right to complain about your pay. It sucks and it is in a pilot's nature to bit<h (to some extent).

HAL39 06-08-2009 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Copperhed51 (Post 624849)
I have been hired at two 121 carriers, the first at 420TT and the second at around 650TT. I've never felt entitled to the jobs but that didn't stop me from applying. Sure I got the first job when the regionals were hiring almost anybody with commercial min's but when I was hired at my current job, they had a huge stack of applications. I got lucky but I also studied hard and don't feel like I didn't earn any of this. I won't apologize for my career path. Oh, and I'm not going to stop complaining about how little I make and how much I do. You know it's bad when the part time station agents at your airline are making way more than you are and are home every night and work way less hours. Even if I wanted to give you my job, I'd have to pay around $8,000 of the training contract anyway so that's not happening.

Amen bro :) I still remember when I first started applying to regionals, I checked out the classifieds to see what other aviation jobs were out there. I remember finding a job flying DHC-8's for WP, and the pay was something like $19 / hr at that time (2006). Just below THAT I found a job working as a TSA agent that paid $42k / yr. Aint that a B :rolleyes: Complain all you want, as long as the effort you put into complaining actually changes something

Mason32 06-08-2009 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by flyinaway411 (Post 621469)
maybe too many ppl with that attitude is part of the reason the job sucks so bad. too many ppl willing to work for crap just to "be in the flight levels" :rolleyes:


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