No, that will cause a lot of CVR circuit breakers to pop for indeterminate reasons :rolleyes:

JSH,
Nothing personal my friend, but he does have a point about the Feds. I think that there are many people working in the field that try to their very best. However, the failings at management and politically appointed positions are in stark contrast. I flew for a 135 cargo outfit, and the Feds couldn't have cared less about us, even with a half-dozen accidents during my time there ( none fatal, thank goodness ). Simply not enough inspectors, and not a priority. It is, what it is I reckon.

Well said FlyJSH.... We have to stop pointing fingers to each others

Usual BS coming from the FAA after the fact. No surprise here. Part 121 training programs are FAA approved and all of a sudden the FAA is hereby questioning its own decision. Training costs money and unless obligated to do so, airlines are not willing to spend more than the minimum amount of money required in order to to meet the standards set by the FAA. I agree that previous flying experience matters. However, european operators are also dealing with low time pilots (250 -300 hours in average). One of the key difference is that european operators have no choice (per regulation) but to invest huge amounts of money in order to provide their new hires with much more than 6 or 8 sim sessions. No secret in aviation, you get what you pay for. The FAA knows it very well but when you are in bed with someone you do not want to give him/her hard time.

something happens.
public outrage demands action.
faa takes action.
public then outraged on increased ticket prices/flight delays.
faa recends/reduces the amount of action.

a vicious cycle nonetheless...

maybe they should throw on a piece on commutair hiring mins right now.

Haha...yeah we would have heard of that one :wink:

Important Article on Pay and Fatigue.
 

Regional carriers, including American Eagle, face pilot training review | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Dallas Business News

The last paragraph: Unions have argued that the regional pilots – whose annual salaries start around $20,000 on average – can become fatigued as they try to accumulate hours.

Regulators said the quick response stemmed in part from White House concern about revelations of regional carriers' reliance on inexperienced and low-paid pilots.


I do believe that pay and fatigue are tied together. How many regional pilots are kept up at night thinking about paying bills and making ends meet.... or working second or third jobs? I do.

Everything in the media is good momentum for our cause. Write your reps and spread the word!

FAA Chief Faces Test on Commuter Safety - WSJ.com

The February crash has heightened scrutiny of the personal stresses confronting many commuter pilots, from chronic fatigue to long-distance commutes. Mr. Babbitt already has indicated he plans to review training requirements for flight crews at commuter airlines. He is expected at Wednesday's hearing to provide more details about stepped-up oversight efforts.

The union contends that turnover of commuter pilots tends to be high and many accept jobs with the goal of moving to larger carriers as soon as possible. As a result, union officials argue many commuter carriers have little incentive to exceed the minimum requirements for federally-imposed training, or to improve the working conditions or lifestyles of their pilots.




Wednesday's hearings should be big, in my opinion.

Not cracking down? They yanked Air Tahoma's cert. They were a pretty ******** operation IMO. Not all freight companies are bad. In fact, I'd fly on some of the operators I deal with anyday over a few 121 Airlines.

Not to be confused with thecurrent topic at hand, there cert. was yanked in Jan. 2009. ;)

The Columbus Dispatch : Air Tahoma grounded by FAA