Kingjay

Heck! I would love to be a surgeon! and i would do it for $16000...heck... I would actually do it for free for awhile.


would that be safe?? would that be legal?? I think the issue is that it is WAY to easy to be a pilot with the current requirements.

JetJock16

Yes, I'd say that 15% of SKW CA's have over 20K hours, 15% are probably around 10K-20K and 25% are between 5K-10K. Since we haven't hired in over a year now our JR EMB FO's are now well over 2K. Our average FO is well over 3K and we have dozens FO’s who are toping 10K+ (that one confuses me, a lifer FO at a regional?). I’d say that SKW, as an average, is probably a little above his numbers; but SKW also has a lot of lifers.

Good Job Prater. I love it when pilots say, "what has ALPA done for me lately." We'll there you have it. It's there voice on Capitol Hill that's most important (the "big picture") and cannot be replaced. Can you imagine what our lives would be like if ALPA wasn’t there to set these “suits” straight. No voice equals no future.

For my son

[quote=block30;630510]More accurate than we all would like to admit. There are a lot of jobs where a person is responsible for the lives of many others at one instant. Let's not kid ourselves.



You know what? I bet you if you went to any high school in this country or any other for that matter, that you would find an aboundance of young , inexperienced and underqualified people to say "Yes Sir!" if you asked them "would any of you like to enter a fast track program to become a doctor?". I doubt there would be much argument about that; but as to your statement that this is a "free market"; well, I just can't let this go.... In a "free market", businesses that don't make a profit FAIL! Not so in the airline industry; bankruptcy laws and government intervention are almost commonplace. In most other types of businesses, employers must deal with labor unions head on; but not so in the airline business, due to the government imposed Railway Labor Act; and its ridiculous, outrageously, outdated restrictions on labor to resort to self help in a timely fashion. This results in labor's hands being tied while companies take their time in conducting their routine business and legal retaliations against them, without any regard to labor's valid right to share in a company's success. I have not known a labor group to ignore a company's validated need for pay concessions, minus the ones who truely tried to greedily take advantage of thier particular situation. Please take my post into consideration.

flight0813

Sorry, look below

flight0813

That is so very untrue. Most surgeons will tell you they love what they do. They, like us, only endure the dedication required in mastering the skill because of a passion for it.

nwa757

Today's webcast and testimony is some of the most important discussions at the highest levels (capitol hill) we've seen in years.

Do everyone a favor and share this stuff with everyone you fly with in the coming weeks. This is very important.

http://commerce.senate.gov/public/in...1-19f691b60d21

http://commerce.senate.gov/public/_f...tionSafety.pdf

For my son

I do not know what you are referring to sir.

flight0813

I agree with you 100%.

I don't think that the wording of FAR 61 for commercial certification of only 250 hours was intended to allow a pilot to fly commercial jets with 50 passengers (or 300 passengers for that matter) but rather intended to give a pilot the tools needed to gain experience to aspire to the minimum time requirements that the airlines then required for employment. It worked well at the time when airlines held a share of the responsibility for standards of employment. use to be a MINIMUM of 1200 hrs & 100 multi before any airline would even acknowledge you. But now???

The senator said it all. (Paraphrasing) "I graduated from law school and was confident and ready to take on the world; I didn't know squat."
Personally, I learned the most about what it takes to be PIC between the hours of 400- 1100 hours of flight time.

BoilerUP

Loving what you do, and it being widely considered a hobby, are two very different things.

block30

[quote=For my son;630673]Do you think I applaud what is happening in this industry? No.

But if a company can pay Joe Blow less to do the same job, they will, and DO. Telling the government to step in goes against a free market by definition. Until the airlines are re-regulated, airlines are going to be paying crap as long as the supply of Shiny Jet Syndrome pilots is high.

ALSO----I'm saying a part of the problem is a lot of Joe Blow's with Shiny Jet Syndrome trampling over each other to take that job.

Don't over-complicate what I said.