I dont think you can not jumpseat on an international flight.

Except that the Delta gate agents who I've run into don't understand the concept of jumpseating in the back. I used an international travel day jumpseating on Delta because the gate agent said, "you can't sit up front I have to move you to a non-rev listing in back".....

Obviously no one cares about the contract lifters at Delta Air Lines. Since this is the case, you Delta guys should just take back the flying. The merger is the worst thing that could have happened for companies and their employees as regional feed.

[/quote] "....Obviously no one cares about the contract lifters at Delta Air Lines. Since this is the case, you Delta guys should just take back the flying. The merger is the worst thing that could have happened for companies and their employees as regional feed.[/quote]

Second that!:mad:

You're not listening, are you?

No one is asking to be treated like a Delta employee. What sucks is that we are taking a giant step backwards from the flight bennies we enjoyed when we were NWA "outsourced contractors." Why can't Delta do the same?

Retaining our existing benefits would scarcely inconvenience most Delta employees. And what an arrogant, facetious argument that if we want "specific non-rev privileges" we should just negotiate it. Delta management controls what we they with their seat inventory through their capacity agreements with the regionals. Our labor contracts have nothing to do with it.

We're not asking for any sort of preferential treatment or increase in benefits beyond what we previously had. But you guys have the attitude of "we got ours -- too bad for you."

I don't think you'd get much argument from the mainline pilots to the idea of taking back the flying. Fully half, if not more than 60% support the idea of recapturing the flying. The trick is recovering it without gutting pay and workrules to achieve it.

The merger was never about making things better for mainline employees, let alone regional feeders. It was about maximizing share price for shareholders and "helping" out senior managers. Labor is the muck on the bottom of their shoe, and regional labor is the gunk on that muck.

a few comments...
to start I sort of sympathize with the plight, but need to point out a few things that I think you are missing.
It is a BENEFIT, not something guaranteed, owed, assumed, required or you are entitled to. A benefits is simply and addon or a "frill", by complaining you are missing the concept of a BENEFIT.


Again, you miss the point, there is nothing that states you are entitled to anything. This is like kicking the gift horse in the mouth. Did you b!tch at xmas when you were a kid because you didn't get that toy you wanted?

he did it because he does not care about morale, when 9E has the second best on time rate in April what message are the pilots sending?Pinnacle?s April on-time rate second best - Memphis Business Journal: Hmm, perhaps "simply the best regardless of what you do to us?"


You are not NWA nor DAL, NWA was generous (in a way) to provide pass benefits to everyone. Again, take what you can get, let management know of your displeasure in ways that can be demonstrated. B*thcin' on a board is only that, you need to take action to send a message and not by being "simply the best". Think what "simply the best" has gotten you since you were hired?

this is the one thing that always amazes me with guys on he way out the door at 9E, they still want to give that 150%. Then I ask them how much the company gave them, the look is always priceless.

If it wasn't for the 900 Pinnacle wouldn't even be a JET PROVIDER....The 200 belong to DAL. DAL has the option to repossess the 200 anytime they wish...NWA repo-ed 15 to 20 two years ago as a way to slap Pinnacles management for it's inability to get a contract signed with the pilots.


What could Pinnacle do with 16 900 if DAL took back the 200's????...not much...I don't think that there is a mainline company who would pick 9E up with the current economy.

Completely untrue. The ten-year Air Service Agreement NWA signed in 2006 (which DAL now has to abide by) provides almost no recourse for DAL to reduce the number of -200s other than swapping them 2-for-1 for 76-seaters. And they certainly cannot remove -200s "anytime they wish."

The 17 -200s which were transferred to Mesaba were covered by a specific clause which allowed NWA to do so if a pilot contract was not signed by March 31, 2007.

1:1 since we are at the floor of 124 -200's. Ironically we got as many -900's as -200's lost.

There are no more 76 seaters going to any regional... they are maxed out.