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dwightkschrute 06-29-2009 12:05 PM

TSA Fail
 
Comics creator stopped by TSA for carrying script about writer under suspicion by TSA - Boing Boing

flynavyj 06-29-2009 03:32 PM

awesome...first they steal things, then they break into airplanes and break the plane in the process, then they question a ron paul supporter.....Is all this a result of them getting badges? Thank god we didn't give them weapons also.

ce650 06-29-2009 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 637060)
awesome...first they steal things, then they break into airplanes and break the plane in the process, then they question a ron paul supporter.....Is all this a result of them getting badges? Thank god we didn't give them weapons also.

What?? what do you mean they break into the plane and break the plane??? tell me more

BenFluth216 06-29-2009 05:40 PM

TSA agents in ORD were using pitot tubes and such on AE ERJs as ladders to see if the could enter the aircraft.

HSLD 06-29-2009 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by ce650 (Post 637098)
What?? what do you mean they break into the plane and break the plane??? tell me more

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...craft-ord.html

ce650 06-29-2009 07:11 PM

Holy sh$# ,, this is unbelievable!!!! who the he&* do they think they are?

theaviator 06-29-2009 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by ce650 (Post 637151)
Holy sh$# ,, this is unbelievable!!!! who the he&* do they think they are?

The Law ......

USMCFLYR 06-29-2009 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by theaviator (Post 637167)
The Law ......

Don't legitimize them by calling them "the law". They are security..... NOT law enforcement. I think I probably know what you mean; but callaing them "the law" makes it sound like you are talking law enforcement IMO.

USMCFLYR

Btw - MISSION CREEP! Just like in the other case recently discussed on the forum.

HSLD 06-29-2009 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by ce650 (Post 637151)
Holy sh$# ,, this is unbelievable!!!! who the he&* do they think they are?

The guys who used to push wheelchairs around at the airports for Argenbright before they got a badge?

contrails 06-29-2009 08:23 PM

Another example of just who and what we're dealing with:

The Things He Carried - The Atlantic (November 2008)

theaviator 06-29-2009 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 637180)
Don't legitimize them by calling them "the law". They are security..... NOT law enforcement. I think I probably know what you mean; but callaing them "the law" makes it sound like you are talking law enforcement IMO.

USMCFLYR

Btw - MISSION CREEP! Just like in the other case recently discussed on the forum.


No no no no, I dont think they are the law. He asked "who do THEY think they are". They think they are the law. I think, well you dont want to know what I think about them.

USMCFLYR 06-29-2009 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by theaviator (Post 637186)
No no no no, I dont think they are the law. He asked "who do THEY think they are". They think they are the law. I think, well you dont want to know what I think about them.

Probably the same things as I.....but I'm glad that I did misread your post (though honestly I figured that was what you meant :))

USMCFLYR

Radials Rule 06-30-2009 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 637180)
Don't legitimize them by calling them "the law". They are security..... NOT law enforcement. I think I probably know what you mean; but callaing them "the law" makes it sound like you are talking law enforcement IMO.

USMCFLYR

Btw - MISSION CREEP! Just like in the other case recently discussed on the forum.

I don't even consider them to be security. I don't know, can they handcuff someone? No matter how much they try to portray the image of police, they're just screeners as far as I'm concerned.

On that note, has anyone really looked at their badges? It says "Officer"!:rolleyes:

https://www.sallyscopshop.com/estore...s/DSCN2140.JPG

Mason32 06-30-2009 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 637185)
Another example of just who and what we're dealing with:

The Things He Carried - The Atlantic (November 2008)


No system will ever be perfect, and I agree that the TSA fiasco is so far from even being normal, that it should probably be scrapped in favor of something else.... however, articles like the one in your link do nothing but teach the would be idiots how to defeat what little "security" there is.

Yep, it "exposes" a problem.... but was there any doubt the "problem" existed in the first place; NO. So why write an article that details exactly how to get past security... it doesn't change anybody's mind about what is, or isn't wrong with TSA... it just highlights a few good methods to get things past them. The article is of no use to anybody except a criminal.

Mason32 06-30-2009 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 637198)
Probably the same things as I.....but I'm glad that I did misread your post (though honestly I figured that was what you meant :))

USMCFLYR

Lets not start this again.....

Mason32 06-30-2009 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Radials Rule (Post 637225)
I don't even consider them to be security. I don't know, can they handcuff someone? No matter how much they try to portray the image of police, they're just screeners as far as I'm concerned.

On that note, has anyone really looked at their badges? It says "Officer"!:rolleyes:

https://www.sallyscopshop.com/estore...s/DSCN2140.JPG


As long as it doesn't say Police, or Special Agent... it's legal....
in this case it's Security Officer... although I am sure that many
actual Federal Law Enforcement Officers are upset about them being issued badges of the exact same style and type as their own, with just small wording changes. Personally, I liked their uniforms before; they looked more professional.... now they look ridiculous.

xtreme 06-30-2009 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 637315)
As long as it doesn't say Police, or Special Agent... it's legal....
in this case it's Security Officer... although I am sure that many
actual Federal Law Enforcement Officers are upset about them being issued badges of the exact same style and type as their own, with just small wording changes. Personally, I liked their uniforms before; they looked more professional.... now they look ridiculous.

They look like jet blue flight attendants with a badge.

meeko031 06-30-2009 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 637060)
Is all this a result of them getting badges? Thank god we didn't give them weapons also.

YES. Ignorance along with a badge equals above the law to most tsa employees! Regional pilots get heat for dressing like a slob, you should see some of these "professionals" This guy in DTW had earrings as big as a headlight on a chevy! (Very classy)

USMCFLYR 06-30-2009 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 637312)
Lets not start this again.....

:) We won't be starting anything unless you think they are law enforcement :)

USMCFLYR

PAN PAN PAN 06-30-2009 06:15 PM

It's okay, they make more money than us anways, and they are backed by the US Government, what can you do?

theaviator 06-30-2009 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by PAN PAN PAN (Post 637707)
It's okay, they make more money than us anways, and they are backed by the US Government, what can you do?


Sign up, wear big earrings, and make more money.

PAN PAN PAN 07-01-2009 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by theaviator (Post 637759)
Sign up, wear big earrings, and make more money.


I already am it's my partime gig, gotta supplement my pay somehow.

Mason32 07-01-2009 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 637635)
:) We won't be starting anything unless you think they are law enforcement :)

USMCFLYR

hate to burst your bubble, but you do not have to be LE to ask questions... but, let's not start that one again.... ok? :)

USMCFLYR 07-01-2009 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 638061)
hate to burst your bubble, but you do not have to be LE to ask questions... but, let's not start that one again.... ok? :)

If they expect answers they had better be - especially if they THINK they have the right to restrict me....but then again - like you said - that topic was well covered in the other thread.
I'll say it again - TSA is expericing mission creep.

USMCFLYR


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