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pilot772 08-09-2009 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by SpiraMirabilis (Post 658915)
And that is written... where exactly? You're not allowed to move CHECKED bags from the cargo compartment to the passenger compartment but you MAY move already screened carry on bags (which have a special ALREADY SCREENED neon green tag in united) from the cargo compartment to the passenger compartment.

Not only would I say this in public, I would do it in front of a safety inspector grinning the entire time. Besides, most of the time they're not even in the cargo compartment yet -- they're on the rack.

Unless things have changed since I left the 121 world a couple of years ago. what is being described is completely legal both via FAA regs and Mesa's Ops Specs. I can't speak to what Piedmont has written in there valet checked bag program approved by the FAA (as many airlines have different policies and ops specs all legal once the FAA gives their stamp.) Back to the topic at hand I did the exact thing that was described taking security screened bags from the cargo bin and placed in the cabin to accommodate for weight. Oh and who was I doing this for it was to get a FED on the jumpseat. :eek: He was appreciative and had no problem with what I did. FWIW

SpiraMirabilis 08-09-2009 12:00 PM

Neither am I (trying to get in a ****ing match) and those limitations are not in Mesa's GOM or OpSpecs. That was my point -- just because an airline does something differently does not make that "WRONG". So please try a more diplomatic course in the future right off the gate... maybe something like 'Wow, thats interesting... at PDT we're not able to do that.' rather than something like 'YOURE GOING TO FAA VIOLATION HELL!!!'

SpiraMirabilis 08-09-2009 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 657216)
I seem to remember that QX's 200's had a max ZFW of 32400. I'm surprised that you guys are usually able to take a jumpseater then - maybe your average BOW's are less but don't Mesa's 200's have APUs? They weren't installed on the QX 200's and max ZFW was still a problem and that's with 400 more available lbs.

Max landing weight was 34500 - you could always take 2100 lbs of fuel + burn + 100 lbs for taxi. It's been a little while now, but that's one of those numbers I will probably always remember :)

Mesa Dash-200s do not have APUs. Some of the old ex-PDT aircraft have the switches for them but the actual APU has been removed.

DASH8AV8R 08-09-2009 12:42 PM

We did operate like you before the Crash of your sister airline B1900 in Clt. Then we went to this more restrictive operation. Anyway safe flying;)


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