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Cessnadriver 07-26-2009 12:18 PM

It might have been because I asked for too many things, but none of the things I asked for have been awarded. If I understand it correctly, asking for something like a certain day off can't hurt you if it isn't awarded.

I did experiment by asking for certain overnights, however I only gave 20 points to this while giving 800 to days off. If I understand it correctly, the system would have to give me 40 overnights in the requested city before it costs me a day off.

No other MSP fo's got a significantly worse than normal PBS award this month? If I'm the only one, I definately have to change my bid, but if everyone noticed a drop in days off, then maybe it was more due to the patterns than my bid.

jayray2 07-26-2009 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Cessnadriver (Post 651125)
It might have been because I asked for too many things, but none of the things I asked for have been awarded. If I understand it correctly, asking for something like a certain day off can't hurt you if it isn't awarded.

I did experiment by asking for certain overnights, however I only gave 20 points to this while giving 800 to days off. If I understand it correctly, the system would have to give me 40 overnights in the requested city before it costs me a day off.

No other MSP fo's got a significantly worse than normal PBS award this month? If I'm the only one, I definately have to change my bid, but if everyone noticed a drop in days off, then maybe it was more due to the patterns than my bid.

Look at everyone else's bid awards in the PBS menu after you login. You can do that you know. If something is messed up call the PBS number, the system still has problems is what I heard.

yb23 07-26-2009 07:04 PM

Hey, just saw this...Cessna I bid somewhere around where you do and also got a 11 day off, no weekends off line...my standing bid was used, which mainly asked for weekends and days off along with no high-speeds (I was awarded 4).

I'll add that every other parallel bid was significantly better than my normal line, with all weekends off and 14, 15-ish days off

I was gonna call the pbs help line and see what they say...

Avroman 07-27-2009 04:57 AM

The best thing we can do with PBS is delay it as long a possible.

xj200capt 07-27-2009 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 651323)
The best thing we can do with PBS is delay it as long a possible.

As long as the company won't negotiate the needed contract changes, which I guess there are many, PBS is just not going to happen.

Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if PBS doesn't get implemented until after the next section 6 negs. are finished. So probably never...

Avroman 07-27-2009 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by xj200capt (Post 651355)
As long as the company won't negotiate the needed contract changes, which I guess there are many, PBS is just not going to happen.

Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if PBS doesn't get implemented until after the next section 6 negs. are finished. So probably never...


That's still too soon for me.;)

Cessnadriver 07-27-2009 04:15 PM

Didn't realize I coud look up other people's schedule, but I found that feature now. Looks like I'm not the only one to take a significant hit this month.

I called the PBS help line and they told me that the instructors were allowed to bid this month basically adding a bunch of relatively senior people to the list which had the effect of dropping my seniority for the month. Based off my bid they said there was no way I could have tweaked it to get more than 11 off.

I agree though, they can delay PBS as long as they want, I'm in no rush.


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