Recall of vice-chair at Pinnacle?
 

What's up with the recall of WG from the MEC?

Rumor I heard is:

NMB was minutes from releasing Pinnacle, but WG stepped in and told the NMB not to because we were very close on a deal. This was done without anyone else's knowledge.

Not sure if there is any truth to this though.

I'm sure Mr. Higney has more info of this

I will be staying out of this. Not my place.

why hasn't that rumor surfaced on airlinkpilots boards? 9e isn't getting released unless unemployment numbers decline rather that stay on the rise. great rumor though. SE, i've seen you recently joined up, any truth to this?

No matter if the TA passes, I think it's become very evident that new blood is needed in the union.

Would this be the NMB's way of saying that in the current climate no matter how much your job sucks you should keep it and be happy....geez

in one word, yes. they have to report to congress and explain how and what led up to them releasing us and with the current unemployment numbers where they are, the NMB is not going to put their arse's on the line and release us.

They just released some other carrier... Like 1300 more people on umemployment matters. That will affect the rate by .00001%.

Can anyone post the details or at least a summary of the changes in the TA?

the MEC still has to vote on it. Once they vote on it, if it passes, they it along with the summary will be released.

From what I've heard it will have a hard time passing at the MEC level.

The apathy is gone (especially in Memphis).

If they release you, and you do strike you couldn't file for unemployment.

i would be able to, cause the place will go belly up within a few days if we strike. which isnt going to happen, the nmb won't release us and if they did, there would be a TA before strike day came

yeah they released a cargo carrier with 9 planes, watch out. 1300 people is only the pilots you are counting, if we go belly up, you've got mechanics, fa's, gate agents, rampers, dispatchers, and a ton of people that work behind the scene's at noncaring blvd hq. great statement farang

Okay 5000? Still .00005% of the total unemployment. They could care less about unemployment anyways.

It has nothing to do with unemployment. Its the disruption in essential air travel that would be the issue. But Delta has been covering their rear on that one...comair 2001 ring a bell?

2001 is why our management group has been all about getting a contract signed all of a sudden the past few months. i'm sure ole rich and co have told PT to get it together or lose their flying. what's your reasoning why the nmb doesnt want to release an airline group that has been bargaining in good faith for over 5 yrs?

9E will not be released by the NMB.

Any thoughts to the contrary show a complete lack of understanding of the RLA and the National Mediation Board and how they both work (or as some correctly state, slow the process of negotiations to an incredibly slow pace).

Be careful to not be held hostage by those who appear to base their decisons on emotion and a lack of understanding of basic economics and the role that pilots play within the airline business model.

Good luck. :cool:

Because they don't believe your MEC is acting in good faith. Take a look at the vote results for this TA. Your MEC voted 5-3, and apparently it was close to not passing at all. That's an indication that your MEC isn't policing your NC, which the NMB does not like. The economy has nothing to do with why you haven't been released. This NMB is itching to release a few carriers to prove that they are willing to do it, unlike the Bush NMB. They're just waiting for the right situation, which is likely to occur soon.

Sounds to me like an MEC beginning to listen to SPSC rhetoric and not the real world. Maybe they need to quit reading their own press.:eek:

In the real world I live in, 9E has made money every quarter for some time. They are not getting hit by the economy like the majors are, they are still getting paid the same amount as before. The economy being in a downturn only counts if your company is hurting, and ours isn't.

9E's biggest problem is the fact that thier managers seem to have thier heads up thier collective arses and want to throw a ton of cash into auction rate securities. Why should I be punished for thier poor judgement? Part of me thinks they wanted to make that money inaccessable to keep it from being on the negotiating table... I wouldn't put it past them.

me either, but flushing it down the toilet over giving it to those who helped make it seems farfetched

I will have to disagree with those who think the NMB wont release 9E..... I think they might ...and sooner than many might think if the TA fails. If the Pilots of 9E want more than what is in the TA... they better hope the NMB will release them.