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Just wondering what the current rumors or guesses on where the Q will be flying IF it comes to IAH. My first guess would be GRK cause we are always over booked on every flight there.

Do not see any reason on speculating on what may happen if something happens a year from now.

All this thread does is start another Colgan vs XJT thread and will be closed in a few days.

I know this wasn't your intention, but this has the makings of a flame fest

True, I didn't even think of it like that

"Flame Fest?" Nobody said anything about the bars you hang out in.:D:D

Someone give this boy an infraction...he is way out of line :D

How dare you Skidmark, how dare you!!!

LoL ::filler::

yep, I'll have to respectfully ask this thread be closed. You guys can flame away all you want, but think about if you were an XJT pilot. You used to do all CALs regional feed, fought your a** off the get an industry leading contract, then had 50%+ flying "redirected" by CAL to other cheaper carriers who fly 70+ seat aircraft for peanuts. You guys can complain about XJT pilots dogging on Colgan/Commutair/CHQ/Gulfstream pilots all you want, but if you were a 6+ year XJT pilot, you would feel the same way. I'm sure this is exactly how CAL pilots felt when XJT starting taking their jet routes, and rightfully so, but the point is, a 21 year old colgan pilot getting excited about Q400s coming to IAH is not something XJT guys are gonna get on here and smile about. Just my .02

By the way, I'm aware this is and always has been CALs flying and they can give it to whomever they want, but the point is seeing it given to pilots willing to fly more seats for cheaper is downright sad for any pilot group.

The key is to tell a joke. Then IC ALL will close it. God forbid there should be any fun in a Regional forum full of doom and gloom.

Stay on topic or you shall be warned, banned, and your dog set on fire!

So a guy runs into a psychiatrist's office yelling, "I'm a wigwam! I'm a tee-pee! I'm a wigwam! I'm a tee-pee!"

Psychiatrist says, "Calm down, you're too tents!"

Actually a 26 year old pilot that served his country for 6 years and didnt have mommy or daddy pay for my flight school to go fly a shinny jet and think I was Continental Mainline. Anyways this was a bad idea starting this. LOL

if your 26 and ex-military... why on Gods good earth would you go to work for colgan? did a mortar go off too close and rattle all the sense loose in your head or were you just too incompetent to pass any other airlines interview?

I would hate to break it to you but xjt was the second airline or 135 operator for most of us. There are very few here who have had everything given to them.

LOL, Wow! Mommy paid for your school for sure!! Well when there is no other airline hiring you really don't have an option,.... So that's why oh and the quick upgrade which is in the past

I suppose your managments getting into a peeing match with CAL over branded had nothing to do with it, eh??? Might want to be sure of all the facts before you slam others...

Who said I work for XJT there Copernicus? I know what it feels like to get the rug pulled out from under me by people who are willing to work for less cause no one else is hiring. Not fun.

I wil rephase it to say "Them" then. I was simply making an observation that the statments people use on here are usually not the whole or complete truth. I was not attacking you specifically just saying that if you deem it necessary to speak ill of another pilot group here you might want all the pertinant facts before doing so. And my name isnt copernicus, its Heather......:D ( inside joke to the APC ers )

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I'm at XJT, and I'm also realistic enough to know that CAL will eventually bring the Q to IAH. I would venture a guess that anything in Louisiana and south Texas will be fair game.

I have no animosity towards the Colgan guys, I would rather give them and their newly elected MEC the benefit of the doubt as they embark in negotiating a better contract. We picked up the slack as CHQ left, and there's a chance we'll eventually replace someone in the United system, and the paint shuffle continues. What I would rather see more than any one regional getting more flying is mainline getting the flying back.

Let's just see what happens.

I knew there was good guys at XJT

If all the XJT guys are so ****ed about Colgan flying the Q400 they should thank their own management. CAL approached XJT to fly them first, ask around at the school house I'm sure you can find someone who went up to Montreal to go test out the plane. Colgan only got the nod after Express Jet said thanks, but no thanks.

I hope that the Q start flying the Dallas (DFW/DAL) routes, and OKC route ... I commute to both of those cities, and they are ALWAYS weight restricted on the 145! Either that or my luck is just that bad and I just always seem to get the gimp plane, lol

I hear the Linx Qs are about to sign a contract with CO and flying out of IAH.

Actually, this statement is only partially true. The reason why XJT passed on it is because we didn't have the infrastructure to support a prop operation anymore, and launching it for what was at the time 15 frames (the original offer with no options), would not have been cost effective for XJT. Rumor has it (take it with a grain of salt) that our mgt. asked CAL to share the cost of launching the venture, and they decided it was more cost effective for them to just give the contract to Colgan. Either way, I don't think anyone is bitter, with a few exceptions who tend to be very vocal here.

There is a mission for both the Q and the ERJ (particularly for the XR), so I'm sure we'll be able to retain a good portion of our market share, and Colgan will get a few more markets. Most of us here at XJT, realize that the future of the company lies with expansion elsewhere anyways (possibly UA).

LOL Republic has to buy CO first then that will happen

I'm at Colgan.....and I agree w/ this 1000%. In fact, whenever the topic of more Q's comes around; the first thing I mention is I would give up every new Q for the prospect of more mainline jobs.

More Q's = bad career opportunities.

Good post. It gets older hearing the same XJT guys blaming Colgan pilots for everything that has happened there (furlough, pay cuts), but I wish XJT all the best and hope they can secure some new flying to bring all those on the streets back.

I hope OKC! OH and I wonder how many FURLOUGHED XJET guys are gonna throw their resume towards Colgan when we start hiring for these Qs??

Also agreed!!

Hopefully they will be on their way back to XJT with higher pay for a smaller airplane. Just because some pilot apply does not justify the pay rates and horrible contract, although that is exactly what management will tell you.

I don't think it will matter a whole lot. With our last new hire class we have about 2000 applicants for 10 positions ... 5 of which went to former Colgan pilots who came back. Just imagine how many applicants we will get when we're trying to hire 185 pilots next year for 16 more Q's (yes, 16, we're replacing the one we lost)

PNCL said in the conf call last month that they have not decided on the 16th plane yet and have not put an order in for it.

Fine!!! be that way ... like I said, we don't know anything in IAD ... all we hear are rumors. And as reliable as those are ... :rolleyes:

Is IAD a bubble that does not allow access to company/corp conference calls? Just wondering because it always amazes me how people would rather speculate and spread rumors and not take 30 minutes to listen to a conference call or read a PNCL Corp quarterly report. Most answers will be found in one of these places.

Remember, reading is fundamemtal;)

We do not have a contract, hence the horrible pay rates.

The lines in Dulles are too crappy to have time to do any of those things! We rely on each other to pass information during crew swaps and sometimes things get lost in translation:D

WHAT!?!?! Pilots will always tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth :p

Don't count those chickens before they hatch brother, things are always changing in this business.