121 Hiring at all with 12 Hour Duty Day?
#1
121 Hiring at all with 12 Hour Duty Day?
I know there are a ton of pilots on Furlough; including myself. But I am just wondering if any and I mean any 121 airline will be hiring in the end of 09 or on into 2010. I have heard with the 12 hour rule airlines will need more pilots but since there are so many on furlough it will just equal out. I haven't flown in 3 months so I guess you could say I'm out of the loop. I do miss my job a ton by the way!
I know there are guys and gals from all the regionals on here and I just would like some input. No bashing other airlines or yours we are regional airline pilots, we are underpaid and under appreciated; we all know! Just input what you think about the 12 hour duty rule and if your airline has any potential to hire or call back furloughees. I'm really just curious. Cheers! and "Keep on Truckin" for all the guys and gals furloughed!
I know there are guys and gals from all the regionals on here and I just would like some input. No bashing other airlines or yours we are regional airline pilots, we are underpaid and under appreciated; we all know! Just input what you think about the 12 hour duty rule and if your airline has any potential to hire or call back furloughees. I'm really just curious. Cheers! and "Keep on Truckin" for all the guys and gals furloughed!
#2
FWIW, my airline has openly said if the duty time regs change (and we operate under 34/7 1200 yr) that they would recall everyone and mabye even hire a crew or two...but only time will tell...I sure would like to get back to work.
#4
Not sure the twelve hour rule will increase line coverage at some airlines, I think some would just cut back frequency. Our situation though because of operating under an obscure 135 reg that covers 121 ops, allowing our duty times to be more might. If we get forced back to 30/7 and 1000 obviously well need more staffing. But most carriers ( due to flying 30+ seats) are already there. Now if no cut in flights and we get pulled to 12 hours duty, we might see some movement....so heres hoping
While we are addressing fatigue issues, I am all for anything that gets us all back to work too
YOU should see it out of the water...theres 27 wheels in them there floats...lmao, the L/D charts suck though...
While we are addressing fatigue issues, I am all for anything that gets us all back to work too
YOU should see it out of the water...theres 27 wheels in them there floats...lmao, the L/D charts suck though...
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THE ONLY GOOD THING these new regs will do is brig back furloughed guys/gals. Everything else will continue in a downward spiral. Our days off will go down, as will our productivity.
I say as much flying as you can fit in a 13 or 14hr duty day, or make a 10hr duty day if your show is prior to 630am etc..
This will be another thing that will further degrade this profession.........
Also, I am opening up a Key-Lime pie stand on the boardwalk here in NJ next summer, free keylime Pie with your airline ID
I say as much flying as you can fit in a 13 or 14hr duty day, or make a 10hr duty day if your show is prior to 630am etc..
This will be another thing that will further degrade this profession.........
Also, I am opening up a Key-Lime pie stand on the boardwalk here in NJ next summer, free keylime Pie with your airline ID
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Furloughed so I don't have the ID anymore but can I give you the secret handshake that they showed before we left for our last day to get a free pie?
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THE ONLY GOOD THING these new regs will do is brig back furloughed guys/gals. Everything else will continue in a downward spiral. Our days off will go down, as will our productivity.
I say as much flying as you can fit in a 13 or 14hr duty day, or make a 10hr duty day if your show is prior to 630am etc..
This will be another thing that will further degrade this profession.........
Also, I am opening up a Key-Lime pie stand on the boardwalk here in NJ next summer, free keylime Pie with your airline ID
I say as much flying as you can fit in a 13 or 14hr duty day, or make a 10hr duty day if your show is prior to 630am etc..
This will be another thing that will further degrade this profession.........
Also, I am opening up a Key-Lime pie stand on the boardwalk here in NJ next summer, free keylime Pie with your airline ID
Can you name any other profession where you get more days off (not including vacation) the longer you've been at the company?
Personally no pilot should get anymore days off than other each month. The senior pilots should get paid more and get to choose the trips they want.
I'll agree having 18 days off is very nice but I don't think its fair.
Management doesn't get 18 days off a month do they?
#9
I don't think I can get much worse than 10 days off...The airline industry is really messed up.
Can you name any other profession where you get more days off (not including vacation) the longer you've been at the company?
Personally no pilot should get anymore days off than other each month. The senior pilots should get paid more and get to choose the trips they want.
I'll agree having 18 days off is very nice but I don't think its fair.
Management doesn't get 18 days off a month do they?
Can you name any other profession where you get more days off (not including vacation) the longer you've been at the company?
Personally no pilot should get anymore days off than other each month. The senior pilots should get paid more and get to choose the trips they want.
I'll agree having 18 days off is very nice but I don't think its fair.
Management doesn't get 18 days off a month do they?
That is the senority system, like it or not, for good and bad. Believe me, I have been been at the bottom a lot, in the middle a lot, and the top a short time. The 18 day off schedule makes up for missing the holidays and the years of having 10 days off.
Management guys go home every night, have normal sleep and are home during the holidays. That is one of the reasons they are management guys.
The system isn't perfect, but it would not be fun with equal days off. Sorry man.
Last edited by OKLATEX; 09-09-2009 at 02:30 PM.
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I don't think I can get much worse than 10 days off...The airline industry is really messed up.
Can you name any other profession where you get more days off (not including vacation) the longer you've been at the company?
Personally no pilot should get anymore days off than other each month. The senior pilots should get paid more and get to choose the trips they want.
I'll agree having 18 days off is very nice but I don't think its fair.
Management doesn't get 18 days off a month do they?
Can you name any other profession where you get more days off (not including vacation) the longer you've been at the company?
Personally no pilot should get anymore days off than other each month. The senior pilots should get paid more and get to choose the trips they want.
I'll agree having 18 days off is very nice but I don't think its fair.
Management doesn't get 18 days off a month do they?
Life is not fair dude. Seniority rules in aviation.
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