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250 or point 65 09-18-2009 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 680541)
I would not have done that, unless you were forced. They have to take you back in. Even if it's a crappy company, you will still be first to come back before the thousands that will apply. Now you are no better off than any other street pilot with pt121 time. Plus you never know with these negotiations. Look what happened to Mesaba.

Do you honestly think that he just went into Zhender's office and said, "yeah, i know you're going to give me recall rights, but nah, I don't want them"?

He had an opportunity to leave PRIOR to furlough. So, when you quit an airline, you give up your recall rights. I'm pretty sure he was aware of this when he made the decision.

rickair7777 09-18-2009 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by bryris (Post 680551)
Being in my shoes, it was the best option considering all available moves and was made only after very much thought. Staying on would have royally messed up my chances to go pursue something else as a hedge - which I am doing. I'd have had to commit to the profession and would have had to decide to ride all the ups and downs regardless of the outcome. Considering many factors, not just my desire to fly for a living, I made the decision that needed to be made and I have no regrets.

But, I am not one for burning bridges. This industry is still not up to my standards right now. But, I am on the sidelines, keeping my finger on the pulse and merely want to stay as poised as I can to jump in IF I decide I want it later on. But that time may never come and because I made the decision I did, I was able to take advantage of an opportunity that seldom comes up at my age that has the potential for enormous dividends.

Giving up recall rights voluntarily is unusual. If an interviewer asks why you did not go back to TSA, have a good answer ready. Badmouthing TSA or complaining about the commute (legit gripes IMO) might make an interviewer wary of your attitude. If you gave up recall rights in a fit of anger or to make a statement, best that potential employers don't learn the details.

Most folks would keep the recall rights even if they had no intention of using them. You never know...

Purpleanga 09-18-2009 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 680556)

He had an opportunity to leave PRIOR to furlough.

I get it. It wasn't clear if he quit or was furloughed because he said he gave up his recall rights.. You wouldn't have any rights if you quit.

CaptainCarl 09-18-2009 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 680541)
Plus you never know with these negotiations. Look what happened to Mesaba.

Sorry to hijack the thread Bryris but how are the negotiations going? Any progress being made?

bryris 09-18-2009 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 680607)
Giving up recall rights voluntarily is unusual. If an interviewer asks why you did not go back to TSA, have a good answer ready. Badmouthing TSA or complaining about the commute (legit gripes IMO) might make an interviewer wary of your attitude. If you gave up recall rights in a fit of anger or to make a statement, best that potential employers don't learn the details.

Most folks would keep the recall rights even if they had no intention of using them. You never know...

Rick, I resigned from the airline before my furlough. I wouldn't have given up my rights unless I had to. Inherent in a resignation is giving up the rights.

If asked in an interview why I resigned when I did, I'll have nothing to hide. No worries about that over here. If revealing a decision that I made in a good faith effort (not out of spite or any such thing) to maximize my survival results in being turned down for a job, I'd rather not work at that particular outfit.

Purpleanga 09-18-2009 01:40 PM

Did those 8 that were recalled this month actually show up?? :eek::eek::eek:


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