slipped

Lately there has been a lot of disscussion about this, Id like to get a feel for the general consenus. I think it would be the best thing that could happen to aviation, maybe even bring up 1st year pay because far fewer pilots will be qualified. Anyway im sure we have all thought about this what are your thought? Also can anyone confirm this is an actual bill right now or is it just speculation?

-Slipped

bryris

I say 3,000. For those few who make it, life will be pretty good.

Mason32

I agree, but that probably won't fly (pun intended). More likely to see the requirement for an Airline Pilot, even a new one, to hold an Airline Transport Pilot's license....

Outlaw2097

1500 works for right seat mins.

I still feel pilots can be in the driver seat for pay raises because fewer will be qualified, let alone still being in this profession.

heading180

Easy for us to say it's a great idea now that most of us have in excess of 1500 hours. How would you feel about it if you had just earned your CMEL or CFI. It would seem like a very dim light at the end of the tunnel.

CaptainCarl

More time to change careers before you get hit by the freight train at the end of that tunnel

Speedbird172

This can still be said for current CFIs in this economy; in fact by the time more hiring begins a lot of those folks will probably have ATP mins. And it's how it was a mere decade ago anyway. Sure I took the bate at 800ish hours, but I'm paying for it now (though glad to be done with the regional BS) and wish I'd stayed instructing a while longer, but that's another story.

Mason32

That is a really scary statement, and reminds me again why I don't let my family members fly on regionals... an AIRLINE is not the place to be building your 1500 hours. While I'm happy you newbies got a job and are building your time, it certainly isn't what the public expects or deserves; and many of us are concerned that what we once considered a profession has become a training ground.... the training grounds are in the right seat teaching, flying VFR 135 to build time to fly 135 charter/air taxi... the time building in flying pipeline, forestry, traffic reporting, scenic stuff...
All you folks have done is lowered the profession of airline pilot to the equivelant of bus driver, and traffic watch pilot. Good job.

By the way, the light at the end of the tunnel isn't daylight.... it's the train
coming at you full tilt. What will you do when the new law requires all new hires to have an ATP, and you current newbies to have an ATP ticket within 3 years?

Zoot Suit

It's not about the CMEL guy or the new CFI. It's about safety, the industry and having real experience up front when the crap hits the fan. ATP license for anyone sitting in the front seat of an airliner sounds good to me.

steak pilot

Why not make it the same as FAR 135 Mins. Not quite an ATP but not "inexperienced" either. When I was a CFI, that was the best time I had earned; gained the most experience in that time than any other throughout my entire tranning. Maybe People with CFI's should have FAR 135 mins, and people who "payed for time" should have ATP mins.

steak