Airline Pilot Central Forums
Page 2 of 4
1
2
3
4
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Regional (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/)
-   -   Comair CRJ Diverts b/c of Cracked Windshield (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/44101-comair-crj-diverts-b-c-cracked-windshield.html)

IrishTiger 09-21-2009 07:08 AM
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 681673)
I hear it sounds like a gunshot when they go....
I hope that I never hear that. I always think about that British pilot who got sucked out his window. Gives me the creeps.

TBucket 09-21-2009 07:20 AM
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 681673)
The other layers would be at the PIC's discretion on continuing the flight. I hear it sounds like a gunshot when they go....

It does... Makes ya jump right out of your damn skin...

HSLD 09-21-2009 08:03 AM
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 681673)
It depends on which pane delaminated. If it was the inner, you need to get on the ground as soon as possible b/c the structural integrity comes from that layer.

The other layers would be at the PIC's discretion on continuing the flight. I hear it sounds like a gunshot when they go....
It does indeed get your attention - I was flying from ORD to RDU in a 737 back in the day and the Capt/s side popped. I smelled the ozone and heard the arcing of the window heaters shorting (delamination caused a void space between electrodes) and it went opaque within seconds. It was Cat. II at destiation so we ended up flying all the way back to ORD to get a new plane.

I've never seen a Capt. get his seat position that low, and seat belt so tight as I did with that guy :)

H46Bubba 09-21-2009 09:06 AM
At Comair it's PIC's discretion. We ask how bad it is and give our (Mx Control) opinion, but the divert decision is up to the Captain.

asa rat 09-21-2009 05:04 PM
Originally Posted by hslightnin (Post 681393)
isnt it always on the FO's side?
Originally Posted by aviatorpr (Post 681600)
seriously, that's how it is with us.
That's because the new windshield goes in the left side for xx hours, it is then removed and reinstalled in the right side while a new one goes in the left. :eek: side...


(Kidding)

asa rat 09-21-2009 05:15 PM
Originally Posted by IrishTiger (Post 681761)
I hope that I never hear that. I always think about that British pilot who got sucked out his window. Gives me the creeps.
That was BA 111, below is some narrative from the report. The Capt, who was blue upon landing, survived.


"The accident happened when the aircraft was climbing through 17,300 feet on departure from Birmingham International Airport en route for Malaga, Spain. The left windscreen, which had been replaced prior to the flight, was blown out under effects of the cabin pressure when it overcame the retention of the securing bolts,84 of which, out of a total of 90, were of smaller than specified diameter. The commander was sucked halfway out of the windscreen aperture and was restrained by cabin crew whilst the co-pilot flew the aircraft to a safe landing at Southampton Airport."

flyingkangaroo 09-21-2009 06:45 PM
I actually listened to the situation on delta radio. From what it sounded like it seemed pretty bad. I might note that "if" a crack formed associated with window anti ice, that would imply that you can't go into icing conditions. The southeast has had every sort of weather the last couple of days and I'm sure that played into their decision.

Copperhed51 09-21-2009 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by wannabepilot (Post 681385)
Wever said that the crack was on a side window on the first officer's side of the airplane's cockpit. She did not know how the crack occurred
So was it a windshield or was it really one of the side/dv windows? I don't remember any guidance whatsoever on cracks in the side windows on the ERJ but maybe it's there is some for the CRJ:confused:

BlueMoon 09-22-2009 03:18 AM
Originally Posted by Copperhed51 (Post 682198)
So was it a windshield or was it really one of the side/dv windows? I don't remember any guidance whatsoever on cracks in the side windows on the ERJ but maybe it's there is some for the CRJ:confused:
FO's side window, center pain. Arplane ferried back to cvg later that day

quimby 09-22-2009 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 681602)
Perhaps they could have flown below 13,000 feet and still taken the passengers to their destination? I don't know what the flight manual says in this instance. I'm just arm chair quarterbacking the pilots.
Do you really think they'd have the fuel to fly 1/2 the flight at 13K or below........and stay legal?


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:28 PM.
Page 2 of 4
1
2
3
4
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands