Industry's flight/duty time proposals
 

The link below is from today's ATA SmartBrief in how the industry envisions the flight and duty time limitations going forward.

Airlines want to shorten pilots' days to boost safety after Buffalo and Hudson crashes | Business - cleveland.com - - cleveland.com

The following is a link within that article to a letter sent by the industry to the FAA. It includes recommendations and charts for different combinations.

http://media.cleveland.com/business_...009%201100.pdf

I'll pass. 9-13hr duty day is junk. I'll take 13 but anything less and there's no telling how impossible my commute would get.

What is the extensions column pertain to in the charts of Appendix 1? If it is what I think it is ( enabling/forcing you to go for 2 additional hours for delays)...hell no.

now you have a 13 hours duty day for a but you can go up to 15? so that is essentially no change.

And screw the 11 hour limit. I can consider 9 but not 11 (especially for 4 legs for 11 hours as the chart shows)

Watch at 2 hr 19min mark....

http://transportation.house.gov/hear...spx?NewsID=992

I'd still like to know why cargo and supplemental should be different than standard domestic 121...

Bingo. What's the limit 12hrs for a two man crew? I know those Kalitta guys I spoke with once had done some serious flying.

Because 2 or 3 lives lost isn't as big of a deal as 150-300 apparently. :rolleyes:

Nobody in the FAA or gubment give a crap about supp freight pilots. It's obvious because the FAA allows these s*itbag freight outfits to fly junk around the world with virtually no rest or duty rules.

Two pilot's it's still 8 hours. Go international and two pilots and a FE becomes 12 hours and no limit on the duty time till the 1 in 7.

Not all supps are freight.

What does this do to reserve rest rules?

One of the favorite crew scheduling tricks that is blatantly unsafe is to call an AM reserve in the morning to release them so they can legally fly a stand up. Or how about calling a PM reserve in the afternoon and releasing them so they can be legal for a 0430 show. No way to adjust your sleep schedule, meaning virtually no chance of good sleep before going to work, but it's totally legal.

How does this proposal prevent that kind of abuse?