Pinnacle pilots say NO!!
09-25-2009, 07:17 PM
#42
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YES!!!! Good job and congrats pinnacle pilots! VERY HAPPY ABOUT THIS!!!!!
I'm so jealous. I wish:
A. I could get that many to vote at Mesa. Oh no, not these pilots though.
B. I wish I could get said pilots to vote no and quit giving in to this miserable company.
GREAT JOB GUYS. Don't ever settle for less. You are worth more than that.
I'm so jealous. I wish:
A. I could get that many to vote at Mesa. Oh no, not these pilots though.
B. I wish I could get said pilots to vote no and quit giving in to this miserable company.
GREAT JOB GUYS. Don't ever settle for less. You are worth more than that.
09-26-2009, 06:18 AM
#45
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So how long do you guys think before we hear anything from anyone about negotiations. I am going to guess January
Think about it, management has no incentive to come back to the table, they are getting 1999 pay rates and work rules right now. They were basically in a win win situation because they know the final act of the story. When they need another TA they will get one. I am not convinced they needed one right now but they got our negotators to believe they needed one, stretching out this contract even further. Their war room is a lot stronger than ours.
So who takes the risk, we do by voting no because we are in a land of uncertainty right now, but its a risk that has to be taken.
Think about it, management has no incentive to come back to the table, they are getting 1999 pay rates and work rules right now. They were basically in a win win situation because they know the final act of the story. When they need another TA they will get one. I am not convinced they needed one right now but they got our negotators to believe they needed one, stretching out this contract even further. Their war room is a lot stronger than ours.
So who takes the risk, we do by voting no because we are in a land of uncertainty right now, but its a risk that has to be taken.
Last edited by PinnacleFO; 09-26-2009 at 06:40 AM.
09-26-2009, 11:45 AM
#46
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
So how long do you guys think before we hear anything from anyone about negotiations. I am going to guess January
Think about it, management has no incentive to come back to the table, they are getting 1999 pay rates and work rules right now. They were basically in a win win situation because they know the final act of the story. When they need another TA they will get one. I am not convinced they needed one right now but they got our negotators to believe they needed one, stretching out this contract even further. Their war room is a lot stronger than ours.
So who takes the risk, we do by voting no because we are in a land of uncertainty right now, but its a risk that has to be taken.
Think about it, management has no incentive to come back to the table, they are getting 1999 pay rates and work rules right now. They were basically in a win win situation because they know the final act of the story. When they need another TA they will get one. I am not convinced they needed one right now but they got our negotators to believe they needed one, stretching out this contract even further. Their war room is a lot stronger than ours.
So who takes the risk, we do by voting no because we are in a land of uncertainty right now, but its a risk that has to be taken.
I say again its LIGHTS OUT at 9E. Delta has got a short fuse for this kind of crap. Delta doesn't need Pinchanickle Airlines. They own the Jet except the 900s they can give the 200s to Mesaba Comair blah blah blah anyone they want.
The OLD men in suits have their exit strategy in place. I think Pinchanickle plans on integrating the 900s into Colgan group....unless lawsuits from 3407 don't short circuit that plan.
Face it you will be working for scum wages or be unemployed MANAGEMENT will not negotiate with you if it betters your life....enjoy another 4 years at the table..
Time for you guys to put pressure on the NMB they are your roadblock now from sending a CLEAR message.
09-26-2009, 12:33 PM
#47
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Originally Posted by flyths1
I say again its LIGHTS OUT at 9E. Delta has got a short fuse for this kind of crap. Delta doesn't need Pinchanickle Airlines. They own the Jet except the 900s they can give the 200s to Mesaba Comair blah blah blah anyone they want.
The OLD men in suits have their exit strategy in place. I think Pinchanickle plans on integrating the 900s into Colgan group....unless lawsuits from 3407 don't short circuit that plan.
Face it you will be working for scum wages or be unemployed MANAGEMENT will not negotiate with you if it betters your life....enjoy another 4 years at the table..
Time for you guys to put pressure on the NMB they are your roadblock now from sending a CLEAR message.
The OLD men in suits have their exit strategy in place. I think Pinchanickle plans on integrating the 900s into Colgan group....unless lawsuits from 3407 don't short circuit that plan.
Face it you will be working for scum wages or be unemployed MANAGEMENT will not negotiate with you if it betters your life....enjoy another 4 years at the table..
Time for you guys to put pressure on the NMB they are your roadblock now from sending a CLEAR message.
You obviously know nothing about our service agreements, contract, or how this process works. Not even worth my time to refute all the BS you just puked up. Sorry we found a backbone which down the line helps you at no cost to YOU.
09-26-2009, 01:27 PM
#48
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Originally Posted by higney85
You obviously know nothing about our service agreements, contract, or how this process works. Not even worth my time to refute all the BS you just puked up. Sorry we found a backbone which down the line helps you at no cost to YOU.
09-26-2009, 03:39 PM
#49
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Originally Posted by flyths1
I say again its LIGHTS OUT at 9E. Delta has got a short fuse for this kind of crap. Delta doesn't need Pinchanickle Airlines. They own the Jet except the 900s they can give the 200s to Mesaba Comair blah blah blah anyone they want.
The OLD men in suits have their exit strategy in place. I think Pinchanickle plans on integrating the 900s into Colgan group....unless lawsuits from 3407 don't short circuit that plan.
Face it you will be working for scum wages or be unemployed MANAGEMENT will not negotiate with you if it betters your life....enjoy another 4 years at the table..
Time for you guys to put pressure on the NMB they are your roadblock now from sending a CLEAR message.
The OLD men in suits have their exit strategy in place. I think Pinchanickle plans on integrating the 900s into Colgan group....unless lawsuits from 3407 don't short circuit that plan.
Face it you will be working for scum wages or be unemployed MANAGEMENT will not negotiate with you if it betters your life....enjoy another 4 years at the table..
Time for you guys to put pressure on the NMB they are your roadblock now from sending a CLEAR message.
09-28-2009, 06:30 PM
#50
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Originally Posted by flyths1
I say again its LIGHTS OUT at 9E. Delta has got a short fuse for this kind of crap. Delta doesn't need Pinchanickle Airlines. They own the Jet except the 900s they can give the 200s to Mesaba Comair blah blah blah anyone they want.
The OLD men in suits have their exit strategy in place. I think Pinchanickle plans on integrating the 900s into Colgan group....unless lawsuits from 3407 don't short circuit that plan.
Face it you will be working for scum wages or be unemployed MANAGEMENT will not negotiate with you if it betters your life....enjoy another 4 years at the table..
Time for you guys to put pressure on the NMB they are your roadblock now from sending a CLEAR message.
The OLD men in suits have their exit strategy in place. I think Pinchanickle plans on integrating the 900s into Colgan group....unless lawsuits from 3407 don't short circuit that plan.
Face it you will be working for scum wages or be unemployed MANAGEMENT will not negotiate with you if it betters your life....enjoy another 4 years at the table..
Time for you guys to put pressure on the NMB they are your roadblock now from sending a CLEAR message.
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