Who is more ****ed off at their MEC, MAG / 9E
#1
Who is more ****ed off at their MEC, MAG / 9E
Judging by the contract that Mesa pilots have and what Pncl pilots voted down on their TA sounds and looks like they had the same Alpa NC sitting in on the table for both deals. lucky enough 9E grow some, and flashed the turd away before Alpa could tell 'em its a brownie!!
http://www.mesapilots.com/comparison.pdf
http://www.mesapilots.com/comparison.pdf
#6
As far as that comparison paper goes, the MAG MEC is guilty of gross failure to check to their facts or outright lying, one of the two. I don't think they checked ANY of their research, probably just sat down over dinner and made that stuff up based on what they thought they remembered hearing from offline jumpseaters over the years.
MAG pilots: Don't buy it.
MAG pilots: Don't buy it.
#7
However, I loved this line at the end of that document;
"As you can see from this overview, the Mesa Air Group
pilots have made signifcant progress toward our goal
of becoming the best in the industry".The day that happens is the day I give up in disgust and stop flying for a living.
#8
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 235
As far as that comparison paper goes, the MAG MEC is guilty of gross failure to check to their facts or outright lying, one of the two. I don't think they checked ANY of their research, probably just sat down over dinner and made that stuff up based on what they thought they remembered hearing from offline jumpseaters over the years.
MAG pilots: Don't buy it.
MAG pilots: Don't buy it.
The one part that is a bit misleading is the bit about the line guarantee. Sure, ASA doesn't have one, but we don't need one. We have 100% cancellation pay, as well as pay protection for trips removed for training/management/rescheduling/etc. All pay protection is lost credit on a leg-by-leg basis. So basically there is no way that you'd end up the month with any less than what was on your final schedule, and often you end up with much more. I'd suspect most airlines are that way, even if they don't have an explicit line guarantee.
#9
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 298
As far as that comparison paper goes, the MAG MEC is guilty of gross failure to check to their facts or outright lying, one of the two. I don't think they checked ANY of their research, probably just sat down over dinner and made that stuff up based on what they thought they remembered hearing from offline jumpseaters over the years.
MAG pilots: Don't buy it.
MAG pilots: Don't buy it.
There are a lot of po'd people at MAG, but the problem is that most will not do anything about it! They just let the company JRA them, they let them do whatever they want to them. They don't hold the union accountable for anything.
Believe me, if I thought that by becoming a non-paying dues member that my career at another future alpa carrier wouldn't be jeopardized, I'd do it in a heart beat. I hate the fact I pay money to those scumbags and I get absolutely nothing for it in return. I know where the money goes too, I've seen the balance sheets.
If I had the time to run for FO rep I'd do it. But I can't guarantee that I'd be able or willing to allocate enough personal time to do the job properly. A lot of our reps have that same problem, but they don't care enough to put ALPA above their other priorities. If you are going to be a rep or another MEC member, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING INTO, so I don't want to hear any excuses of why you can't do this and why you can't answer your phone. Heck half of them turn their phones off at 5pm Friday and don't return calls until Monday.
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