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Stock up 20% today

Must have something to do about those new airframes.

Don't get excited, it's the stock market. It could be down 30% tomorrow. :D

An optimist I see!

They probably got the UA flying.

The players on wallstrert would not know today if xjt got the UA flying.

Funny... the ASA boys think they got the UAL flying...both companies have "in the know" employees telling people they will be happy by mid month :)

Mesa will keep the flying according to people in the know at Mesa.

well who knows. I was told by a chief pilot at ASA we are getting really good news in about 2 weeks.. its been 4 days since. It could be, however, a new and more tasty crew meal.

Sorry to inform you, Colgan got the UAL flying.

(Yes this is a joke)

Well starting today UA can give notice any time for the cancellation so it's not over yet for JO.

Will they ever have branded flying again?

Ahh............................................... .................................................. .......NO.

AWAC has got the UAL flying in the bag. No doubt...for sho. :cool:

Hopefully some announcment will be made soon. I hope XJT gets at least 20 airframes so we can get called back

I don't think 20 airframes will get anyone called back. All it would do is get everyone back on full time status, i.e. no more 40 and 60 hr lines. We would need more airframes to get recalls.

But that would put the most junior people in the company back on reserve! We can't have that!:rolleyes:

I am out of the loop. Did they park some airplanes, or are these new airplanes? Good luck from a former COEX/ExpressJet guy! To me, it will always be COEX.

I sincerely hope AWAC is smarter than attempting to get back into bed with United. AWAC has been screwed so many times by UAL over the years and should know better.

We parked 30 airframes (135s) in the desert on Oct 1, 2008. We furloughed 347 as a result of that.

Concurrent with that (and what I was referencing), the Union allowed the company to offer Reduced Flying Lines. They company awarded MANY long-term 40/60 hour lines to guys, essentially making them instant relief line holders, while people hundreds of numbers senior to them are on reserve. They can also pick up advertised trips and build their line up to 80-90+ hours every month. Just ask one of the union guys...he's doing it!

It would be really nice to see XJT get a new contract. They have alot of pilots on the street. Who knows if that is why the stock price is up.

The company likes the RFL's and they have said that they want to keep them so 20 airframes could be a cause for recalls. Also everyone that is on the senority list has the option to bid a 40 or 60 hour line so the guys that are senior and on reserve had the option to bif for these and chose not to bid and as for the union member doing a RFL that is their choice. They are not doing anything wrong by doing this.

AWAC, Asa and Xjt all think they got the UAL flying.
Only one airline can get it yet everyone thinks it's a "done deal."

Mesa will probably end up just keeping it or it will go to PNCL.

They probably did, part of that rfp was for q-400s and UAL offered 10 planes to skywest for 2 years and they turned it down.

I can assure you AWAC is not getting this flying. If anything the UAL flying will go to airlines who already have 50 seaters sitting around. United has been very public that Pro-rating is what they are interested in. SKYW is already doing some routes for UAL with this in place.

XJT could do this??


AWAC has a much better chance of folding than getting flying.

Use your head for a minute. They like the RFLs because it gives them flexibility with slower months (like OCT for example). Right now every month is a slower month with the lower block hours compared to 2007 levels. Even with 10 planes flying 12-13 hrs a day for UAL in the summer we still had guys on RFLs, meaning we were still overstaffed. They would not allow 40-60 hr lines during peak travel season AND recall at the same time, that would be an added cost to a company that is still losing money every quarter. It does not make business sense to allow some to be a part time employee and have to recall, I wish you guys the best and hope you get back here soon but 20 airplanes will not bring back recalls. 30-40 new airplanes would require recalls, I don't know where you get your information. I get my information straight from GS who told myself and a bunch of others in recurrent this exact thing I'm telling you. Pray for 40-50 new airframes and you will most likely need to be recalled...........otherwise it will be a long time (until captains start leaving again, and at least 200+ will need to leave) before we start recalling.

LOL! If I had a buck for every person who has used that same line, I'd be rich.

A round of beers says it goes to SKW or ASA... meanwhile, we'll continue to be "overstaffed" by having more than half our days in Nov under coverage.

I doubt it, XJT was forced to sign a CPA at a loss by CAL and Skywest. They pretty much have to overbid to break even and pro-rate is out of the question. Skywest pretty much took their ability to compete away.

It makes sense that they are going to ASA because ASA is about to lose some delta flying. If this was new flying with new airplanes it would 100% go to Skywest but managment would rather get it on INC. than let someone else have it, so ASA is the next best thing.

SKywest would be operating 450 plus or minus airplanes if they won the contract. That is a lot of airplanes to spread your costs over and they offer a good product.

That is very true!

Where are y'all around ORD? thought that flying was extended, but haven't seen any Aquafresh ERJ's around. IAD maybe?

Nope, that flying ended right on schedule.

There was a provision in the deal that UAL had a rolling extension period, but it never got used. Obviously.

ExpressJet taking a look at Gary

10/3

Gary/Chicago International Airport is in talks with regional carrier ExpressJet to fly from Gary to major airline hubs such as Denver International and Dulles International in Washington, D.C.

UAL flying?

It's probably just due diligence (maybe a part of the RFP relating to at-risk flying for united?). Before you enter a contract you crunch numbers, talk to the parties affected, and otherwise figure out its a good deal. It's not a secret who bid on the flying. I'm sure ASA and others have spoken to numerous airports as well.

UAL offered the same thing to Mesa a couple of years ago, COO said it was too short of a contract to consider when the shortest lease on a 400 was 7 years.

You'd be pretty dumb to take such a short contract on a popular new airframe...hell it would take half that time first just to train up crews! Not to mention other costs. Guess even JO knows this. Look at the debacle with RAH/CO.

True that...word!